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To: vladimir998
"Crack open your Bible and you might learn something. Have you honestly never read the Bible?"

Oh Vlad, so, so touchy when I ask a simple question. Instead of answers, insults. When you cracked open your Bible, did you read this... and is it symbolic, or did Christ mean what He commanded? I ain't seeing it in your reply.

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

Jesus Christ, John 13:34-35

I asked you those questions because you stated the churches in Revelation is symbolic. I asked you to defend with facts your claims. You did not. Christ addressed 7 real churches, all clustered together. He had a message for each. Instead of Wikipedia, maybe crack the real Bible. Instead of just attacking a brother in Christ, have a real conversation. You stated the Church was pure, but the people were not. I asked if you take away the people, what is left that is pure. You did not answer. I wish better for you and for all the Church.

60 posted on 06/16/2013 2:47:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; vladimir998
"Crack open your Bible and you might learn something. Have you honestly never read the Bible?"

Have Catholics never read the Bible?

1 Corinthians 5

It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. 2 And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

3 For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. 4 When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.

11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

62 posted on 06/16/2013 2:57:14 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You wrote:

“Oh Vlad, so, so touchy when I ask a simple question.”

Not touchy at all. I’m just being rational. If you know these things, then you know them.

“Instead of answers, insults.”

Nope. Just truths.

“When you cracked open your Bible, did you read this... and is it symbolic, or did Christ mean what He commanded?”

Your mistake is defining it as either/or.

“I ain’t seeing it in your reply.”

It doesn’t matter if you do. The fact that it is symbolic won’t change. Does that mean it is not about real churches? No. Would that make it less symbolic? No.


64 posted on 06/16/2013 3:14:32 PM PDT by vladimir998
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