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Have You Accepted Jesus into Your Heart?
Standing on my head ^ | June 7, 2013 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 06/07/2013 2:33:44 PM PDT by NYer

A friend of mine was showing a Southern Baptist neighbor around the Catholic Church. She explained the Stations of the Cross, the crucifix, the image of the Blessed Mother and the saints.

Then they came to the image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. The Baptist was bemused.

“Why do y’all have a statue of Jesus with his heart on the outside?”

“Well,” said the Catholic lady sweetly, “You Baptists like to ask Jesus into your heart right?”

“That’s right.”

“We like to ask Jesus to take us into his heart.”

Perfect apologetics. Welcoming and kind and working from what the other person knows to what they have yet to discover.

Here’s a poem for the Solemnity today:

My true love hath my heart and I have his,
By just exchange one for another given;
I hold his dear, and mine he cannot mis,
There never was a better bargain driven.
My true love has my heart and I have his.

His heart in me keeps him and me in one,
My heart in him his thoughts and senses guides
He loves my heart, for once it was his own,
I cherish his, because in me it bides.
My true love has my heart and I have his.

Read Sacred Heart – Tough Love

 


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Prayer; Worship
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To: metmom

Repost, since other one came out funky:

“While it is true that no one seeks after God and no one can come to Him unless God draws him, I don’t see where, in this passage, it says that if God draws someone, it will guarantee their choosing Him.”


Why is the “and he said” colored blue in your quote? The ‘Therefore” is the explanation for the “some of you that believe not.” It’s not a separate strain of thought.

But as to the question:

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Or here:

Joh 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. (26) But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. (27) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: (28) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (29) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. (30) I and my Father are one.

“God desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Timothy 2:4)


Barnes commentary on 1 Timothy 2:4

“That is, it is in accordance with his nature, his feelings, his desires. The word “will” cannot be taken here in the absolute sense, denoting a decree like that by which he willed the creation of the world, for then it would certainly be done. But the word is often used to denote a desire, wish, or what is in accordance with the nature of anyone. Thus it may be said of God that he “wills” that his creatures may be happy - because it is in accordance with his nature, and because he has made abundant provision for their happiness - though it is not true that he wills it in the sense that he exerts his absolute power to make them happy. God wills that sickness should be relieved, and sorrow mitigated, and that the oppressed should go free, because it is agreeable to his nature; though it is not true that he wills it in the sense that he exerts his absolute power to produce it. A parent wills the welfare of his child. It is in accordance with his nature, his feelings, his desires; and he makes every needful arrangement for it. If the child is not virtuous and happy, it is his own fault. So God wills that all people should be saved. It would be in accordance with his benevolent nature. He has made ample provision for it. He uses all proper means to secure their salvation. He uses no positive means to prevent it, and if they are not saved it will be their own fault. For places in the New Testament where the word here translated “will” (thelo), means to desire or wish, see Luk_8:20; Luk_23:8; Joh_16:19; Gal_4:20; Mar_7:24; 1Co_7:7; 1Co_11:3; 1Co_14:5; Mat_15:28.”

You should not confuse God’s decree of election with His desire to end all suffering or to save the entire world. That a man is not brought to believe does not take away his guilt for not believing. He is condemned for his own sins, for his own refusal. He loves the world, but He does not pray for the whole world. Only for those given to Him out of the world:

Joh 17:6-10 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. (7) Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. (8) For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. (9) I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. (10) And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

He does not predestinate those who believe. Rather, he foreknows and predestinates them so that they should believe.

Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

He did not choose the willing, or those who are running, but rather those who did not seek Him and did not run at all.

Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.


141 posted on 06/08/2013 8:08:53 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: metmom
"You’d have to ask someone who has a priestess and for all the different denominations I have attended over the years, I have yet to meet one."

I have no way of knowing I didn't already.

142 posted on 06/08/2013 8:08:57 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Does Calvin preclude paragraphs? Ouch!


143 posted on 06/08/2013 8:09:03 PM PDT by narses
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To: CynicalBear; HoosierDammit; TYVets; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ...

CynicalBear wrote:

Even the RCC itself says they have incorporated pagan practices into their “religion”.

Really? Like what?


145 posted on 06/08/2013 8:49:36 PM PDT by narses
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To: unlearner
Awesome answer .
Even Isaiah tells us that he was not good enough to stand on his own merits

(Isaiah 6:5) Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

146 posted on 06/08/2013 10:35:19 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Elsie
YACVPT?

Your Actual Catapult Varies Per Target???

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

147 posted on 06/08/2013 10:47:26 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Revolting cat!
The Reverend Longenecker is right. Or, why should I trust some anonymous Internet keyboard warriors and amateur theologians over a well educated, well spoken priest?

Pharisees were well educated and well spoken too and yet Jesus chose to use the unschooled fishermen.

148 posted on 06/08/2013 10:59:34 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Natural Law; metmom
Those who refuse to grant the benefit of the doubt to Catholics and Catholic clergy [...]

Benefit of the doubt? REALLY?

Then we would also have to give 'the benefit of the doubt' to the Mormons, and Islam, and every other aberration that chooses to knowingly trample the Word of Yahweh underfoot for the benefit of their clergy and tradition...

149 posted on 06/08/2013 11:02:30 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Natural Law

Volvos are not scriptural, Hondas and Plymouths are.


150 posted on 06/09/2013 1:10:54 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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To: metmom
It wasn't something the Israelites used or incorporated in their worship that God later approved. Read and learn.

And the decorations on the Ark, and later around the temple were in direct defiance to Gods orders.... is that your claim. None of those were used in worship either. Nice try.

151 posted on 06/09/2013 3:09:26 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: metmom
And just how old are you anyway?

It is a much more polite response than his comment warranted.

152 posted on 06/09/2013 3:11:30 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: metmom
Is there something about *Protestants don't have priests* that is too hard to understand?

Is there something about the "ordination" of women against biblical teaching that is hard for you to understand. Call them VooDoo Queens of New Orleans for all I care it is a pagan practice. If you don't like being called on it that is just to bad.

153 posted on 06/09/2013 3:14:21 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom
but to claim that all Catholics do not worship icons, statues, bones, etc. would require you to be a mind-reader also.

Not at all I simple give them the benefit of the doubt that they are following what God has commanded.

Based on what one can observe from the outside only, I often see things that indeed look like worship. Is it? I leave it to God.

You don't have to; They are not Catholic, they are Catholics in name only since they are violating Church teaching. They are either pagan or protestant, in some cases both (Snake handlers, Priestesses or VooDoo Queens of New Orleans, That's for you met mom.)

154 posted on 06/09/2013 3:26:20 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: metmom
You’d have to ask someone who has a priestess and for all the different denominations I have attended over the years, I have yet to meet one. Just as last week you never heard of protestants blessing homosexual weddings.

That is your story and you are going to stick to it? Tell me what cave back in the middle of what woods do you live in? /SARC

155 posted on 06/09/2013 3:32:36 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: metmom
Most Catholics excuse in their own church what they condemn in others. Hypocrisy abounds........

Can you cite examples of Catholics in this Forum excuses abuses happening in our Church. We are the first to condemn it.

156 posted on 06/09/2013 3:34:11 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Why is the “and he said” colored blue in your quote?

Because it's not words Jesus spoke.

I post Scripture in blue and what Jesus said in red.

He does not predestinate those who believe. Rather, he foreknows and predestinates them so that they should believe.

Well, some Calvinists believe that.

The way I read the verse is that God foreknows who would accept His gift of salvation given the chance and then instead of sending them to hell for their sin as they still really do deserve. He decided to take them to heaven, so they those who believe are predestined for heaven.

It's a slightly different reading than usual but I don't see it in conflict with any other Scripture.

157 posted on 06/09/2013 4:40:32 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: roamer_1

Yet
Another
Catholic
Versus
PROTESTant
Thread
?


158 posted on 06/09/2013 4:50:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Natural Law; verga

“Religious art was to the illiterate what Scripture is to the literate. 

 

Therefore...

 

Scripture is to the literate  as  EXTRA-biblcal teachings are to the BLANK.

 

 

(You fill it in.)


159 posted on 06/09/2013 4:56:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: unlearner
When we sin ignorantly we are disobedient.

Nah... just ignorant.

How could we 'disobey' something we have no 'knowledge' of?

160 posted on 06/09/2013 5:05:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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