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The Body of Christ
The Catholic Thing ^ | June 2, 2013 | Bevil Bramwell OMI

Posted on 06/02/2013 11:49:33 AM PDT by NYer

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To: fwdude
**Do this in remembrance of me."**

And so the priest does. Much like the Jewish people have a meal of remembrance at Passover time.

Christ in the past who died on the Cross, is united with Christ in the Mass -- the consecrated Bread and Wine -- the Body and Blood of Jesus, and Christ in the future, who will come again, are all united in that one moment of consecration. Remember that with God there is no time.

In the last two lines of this St. Paul quote to the Corinthians, Paul says virtually that.

Reading 2 1 Cor 11:23-26

Brothers and sisters:
I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you,
that the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over,
took bread, and, after he had given thanks,
broke it and said, "This is my body that is for you.
Do this in remembrance of me."
In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying,
"This cup is the new covenant in my blood.
Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."
For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup,
you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.


41 posted on 06/02/2013 4:03:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

Sorry to disappoint you, but the Catholic Church does NOT change all the time.

Remember that the Pope speaks infallibly only on issues of faith and morals.


42 posted on 06/02/2013 4:05:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Excellent post. Thank you.


43 posted on 06/02/2013 4:07:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Theo
>> Hey, that monstrance looks just like the one Jesus used!<<

LOL More like the sunburst symbol to the sun god of Babylon where it came from

44 posted on 06/02/2013 4:08:20 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fwdude
**Nothing can "become" the Body of Blood of Jesus that wasn't before. Saying so makes light of the Incarnation.**

I guess you have forgotten that God can do all things. Read about some Eucharistic miracles that have happened. Both while the priest was celebrating Mass and at other times. Especially read the one about Lanciano -- 1100 years old and has been scientifically tested -- it is completely heart muscle that matches the blood type on the Shroud of Turnin.

‘Bleeding’ Eucharist at Primary School in Moruga [Trinidad]
The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano, Italy (The Body and Blood of Christ) [Catholic Caucus]
Do You Believe in Eucharistic Miracles?
Eucharistic Miracle at St. Stephen's in New Boston MI.(Catholic Caucas)
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] EUCHARISTIC MIRACLES

[CATHOLIC CAUCUS]'Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity': The Miracle and Gift of the Most Holy Eucharist
Looking After a Eucharistic Miracle (Franciscan Recounts His Special Mission in Siena)
Eucharistic Miracle: 2009?
Possible Eucharistic Miracle in Poland
The Eucharistic Miracles(Catholic Caucus)
Vatican display exhibits eucharistic miracles
Eucharistic Miracle - Bolsena-Orvieto, Italy
Physician Tells of Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano -Verifies Authenticity of the Phenomenon
BLOOD TYPE FOUND IN ICONS IS SAME AS IN SHROUD OF TURIN AND 'LANCIANO MIRACLE'
Eucharistic Miracle: Lanciano,Italy-8th Century A.D.

45 posted on 06/02/2013 4:11:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude; All
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"YE SHALL KEEP IT a FEAST to the LORD Throughout Your Generations; ye shall keep it a FEAST by An ORDINANCE FOREVER. "

Remember God's reply to Moses. "I Am" He is in the Eternal present. We are not. We were not there at the Cross. We are in the time space continuum of creation. Time is created from the movement of Planets. The earth moves around a full day(24 hours) then 365 days are a year. A decade is 10 years. Then 100 years is past. 1000 years are past too. So on and so forth.

While all this is happening God is still not bound by time like we are. He is outside of his creation. So when he declares "I Am" he is constant there is no beginning, middle or end. He is the Alpha and Omega as in the Book of revelation.

The bloody sacrifice has been done.

"Christ is not recrucified; the Sacrifice of the Mass is unbloody -- after the order of Melchizedek. Christ died once at a FINITE POINT IN HISTORY; but God is Outside of Time and His offering of Himself is eternal. The Grace Christ offers in the Divine Liturgy and what He offered on the Cross are of the same sacrifice; therefore, in no way can the liturgical Sacrifice be a "repetition" of the Crucifixion. His sacrifice is re-presented ("made present again in some way"). As the Council of Trent put it, "The fruits of that bloody sacrifice, it is well understood, are received most abundantly through this unbloody one, so far is the latter from derogating in any way from the former."

Also remember Moses reminded the Israelites that the passover which contains eating the lamb forever decreed by God. Exodus 12

Exodus 12:1-14 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt saying, This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you. Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house: And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb. Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats: And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it. And they shall EAT THE FLESH in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. ............... it is the LORD's PASSOVER................................................And this Day Shall Be Unto You for a Memorial; and YE SHALL KEEP IT a FEAST to the LORD Throughout Your Generations; ye shall keep it a FEAST by An ORDINANCE FOREVER.

"YE SHALL KEEP IT a FEAST to the LORD Throughout Your Generations; ye shall keep it a FEAST by An ORDINANCE FOREVER. "

Gee How is it still going on as promised. Never ending.

Christ introduced on the FEAST OF PASSOVER the everlasting body and everlasting blood. He just by chanced put this at Passover where it is promised by Moses that we will eat the Lamb forever? HMMM....

Moses is not a liar. The Jewish today do not have sacrifices so what in the world is going on with this promise by MOSES. HMMM.....

Could it be that CHRIST REPLACED IT with THE TRUE LAMB WITHOUT Taking away the Eating the BODY the LAMB by BENIGN PRESENCE. HMMMM.....

Otherwise we make Moses a LIAR. HE is not a Liar.

There is no more evidence of this promised continuum except for the Mass.

http://www.fisheaters.com/mass.html

46 posted on 06/02/2013 4:15:47 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

http://www.fisheaters.com/mass.html


47 posted on 06/02/2013 4:16:18 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: fidelis; Theo
>>Refresh my memory: which Scripture passage states that Jesus himself consumed the bread after he blessed it and gave it to his disciples?<<

Not only does it indicate He did drink but indicated it was not His real literal blood.

Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

48 posted on 06/02/2013 4:16:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NYer
 

The Body of Christ
God’s Solidarity Never Ceases to Amaze Us (Pope Francis on the Solemnity of Corpus Christi)
The Blessed Sacrament: It's either All or nothing
WDTPRS: Corpus Christi – I affirm my subjugation to Christ vanquisher of hell and my sins.
On Corpus Christi, The Sacred Teaches
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The Mystic, the Doubter, the Pope and the Dumb Ox: The Fascinating Origins of Corpus Christi
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Corpus Christi: The Body and Blood of Christ (Procession) [Catholic Caucus]
Corpus Christi (by St. Peter Julian Eymard)
Beginning Catholic: The Eucharist: In the Presence of the Lord Himself [Ecumenical]
Christ the Miracle Worker in the Eucharist(Catholic Caucus)
St. Cyril of Jerusalem: Catechetical Lectures - Lecture XXII on the Body and blood of Christ
Transubstantiation—Hard to Believe? [open]

On Daily Bread [OPEN]
The Meal of Melchizedek (what is meant by Christ’s words, "This is my body; this is my blood")
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Corpus Christi
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Back to the Future: Reviving Corpus Christi Processions
Homily of Pope Benedict XVI for the Feast of Corpus Christi
The Banquet of Corpus Christi - "Why did Jesus give us His Body and Blood?"
A Reflection on Corpus Christi
Corpus Christi celebrations in Poland (gallery)
Pope Leads Corpus Christi Procession - "We Entrust These Streets to His Goodness"
Day 37 of Pope Benedict XV's Reign - Feast of Corpus Christi


49 posted on 06/02/2013 4:16:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: johngrace

Heb 9:8-10 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: (9) Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; (10) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

It does not follow that that which stood only as a shadow of things to come, should simply be reformulated and carnally practiced for all eternity. We eat and drink the body of Christ not through carnal practice; we do not literally become a part of His physical body; we have faith in Him, and in so doing we eat and drink Him already. See post #35


50 posted on 06/02/2013 4:20:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Steelfish
But the “trans-substantiated” Eucharist now represents the Christ actually coming into your soul.

This is just plain stupid...It's stupid to believe it and even more stupid to repeat it...

There is no connection whatsoever between someone's stomach and their soul and spirit...

You guys claim Jesus IS the cracker...So when the cracker gets digested, either Jesus leaves the cracker and the physical becomes spiritual and passes thru your stomach into where ever your soul is, and the cracker ends up in the toilet...

Or, Jesus doesn't leave the cracker, both Jesus and the cracker who are one according to you guys goes into the toilet...

Or the final one: the cracker goes into your stomach and doesn't come out the other end...All of it since it really isn't a cracker after all passes thru your stomach into your soul...

So which one are you claiming???

51 posted on 06/02/2013 4:23:23 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Live sources? Did you forget?


52 posted on 06/02/2013 4:32:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Sorry about the formatting there. I will remember not to take things from that website.


53 posted on 06/02/2013 4:32:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

Hey, Dude!

Comparing the ‘Host’ consecrated by a priest to a ‘cracker’ is more than rude.


54 posted on 06/02/2013 4:32:58 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Salvation

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1701025.htm


55 posted on 06/02/2013 4:33:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Steelfish

Pray for the UNITY of all Christians.


56 posted on 06/02/2013 4:39:04 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: IbJensen
Comparing the ‘Host’ consecrated by a priest to a ‘cracker’ is more than rude.

Tell me about it. So, why does the priest call a cracker Jesus?

Supremely rude.

57 posted on 06/02/2013 4:39:59 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: NYer

Why do non-Catholic Christians attack their Catholic Christian brothers and sisters?

This is SO WRONG.


58 posted on 06/02/2013 4:40:27 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Iscool

This is foolishness beyond belief. It’s not “You guys” who said this. This is what Christ did at the Last Supper and sent Peter and His Apostles to do likewise. It is the belief of the very early Christian community. You folks are the type of “Sola Scriptura” idiots whose “reasoning” tries to trump the actions of the Christ, his Disciples, the early saints and martyrs, and the learned doctors of the Church and the 2000 year unbroken history of the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. And we are told to go search the tens of thousands of wild mushrooms and their beliefs. Go figure!


59 posted on 06/02/2013 4:40:48 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Biggirl

“Pray for the UNITY of all Christians.”


Pray for the unity of Christians in the Gospel as handed down to us by the Apostles, not a perversion:

Gal 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


60 posted on 06/02/2013 4:41:27 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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