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Catholic Lane ^ | June 1, 2013 | Marie Trebeh

[NYer]

Scott Hahn was a Presbyterian minister, the top student in his seminary class, a brilliant Scripture scholar, and militantly anti-Catholic ... until he reluctantly began to discover that his "enemy" had all the right answers. Kimberly, also a top-notch theology student in the seminary, is the daughter of a well-known Protestant minister, and went through a tremendous "dark night of the soul" after Scott converted to Catholicism.

Their conversion story and love for the Church has captured the hearts and minds of thousands of lukewarm Catholics and brought them back into an active participation in the Church. They have also influenced countless conversions to Catholicism among their friends and others who have heard their powerful testimony.

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[uncitizen]

thanks for posting. appreciated!

[tbpiper]

How many times must Christ be sacrificed in order to atone for sin?

[Biggirl]

Christ died for sins once, but the Catholic mass is a rememberence of Christ’s sacriface on the cross.

[Ua Ruairc of Bréifne]

Hey TB

Of course, there is only ONE sacrifice — Our Lord’s sacrifice on Calvary.

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is a RE-presentation of that self-same sacrifice. Not a representation. The ONE sacrifice is RE-presented at every Catholic Mass.

I think of it as kind of a time machine — remember the TV program “You Are There”?

It’s kind of like that.

At the moment of consecration, you are there! — at the foot of the Cross — with Holy Mother Mary and Saint John — uniting yourself and your suffering with Jesus on the cross.

The word Eucharist mean thanksgiving — and we can never thank Him enough for what He did for us.

God bless you. (Some more.)

[tbpiper]

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is a RE-presentation of that self-same sacrifice.

That's exactly my point. If Christ died once for all and totally paid our debt to a righteous God, why would it be necessary to re-sacrifice Him again?

I ask this with the understanding that your church considers the Eucharist to be a true but un-bloody sacrifice of the actual body and blood of Jesus.

As far as being at the cross with Him, I've gotten way past that. I've been raised with Him and seated with Him in the heavenly realms. (ref Ephesians 2:6)

[MamaB]

All churches do not feel “empty” like you said. I do not understand why Catholics hate Protestants so much. Maybe it is just those on here. You would get more respect if people did not spout so much hatred. I really, really can not respect other points of view when hate is showed instead of love. I grew up going to many different churches and they all taught from the Bible. Try love instead of hate.

[Old Yeller]

Christ died for sins once, but the Catholic mass is a rememberence of Christ’s sacriface on the cross.

Wrong! If the Catholic church really believes in transubstantiation, then it is actually a re-sacrificing of Christ at every mass and not just a "rememberance".

[Biggirl]

lPlease read post number 6, does a better presentation of what the mass is all about.

[annalex]

to re-sacrifice Him again?

The Holy Mass is not a different sacrifice but the same sacrifice.

[tbpiper]

The Holy Mass is not a different sacrifice but the same sacrifice.

Are you saying it's a continuation of the original crucifixion? If that is so, what was Jesus referring to when He said "It is finished"?

[Ua Ruairc of Bréifne]

I said RE-presentation, not RE-sacrifice, TB.

In the Holy Mass, you are PRESENT at that VERY moment that happened on Calvary 2000 years ago.

What is happening on the altar at that moment of Consecration is not Calvary happening AGAIN, it is Calvary happening STILL.

How can this be?

Because Christ’s sacrifice is ETERNAL, — eternally PRESENT to the Father — and to you, too, at that moment of Consecration in the Holy Mass.

Eternity is a concept beyond our understanding.

It doesn’t mean “forever” nor a long period of time. It means “outside of time itself”; a perpetual present, a never-ending now. God apprehends all events in time in a single glance of “now”. The “thousand years is a single day” suggests how different the Divine Perspective is from ours.

The sacrifice of Christ is not time-bound. That’s why the institution of the Holy Eucharist was possible at the Last Supper — hours before Calvary. It anticipates the Sacrifice on Calvary, because the future is PRESENT from God’s eternal perspective. Easy-peasy for God.

The Catholic Church believes, as you do, that there is no need for a subsequent sacrifice since the first is infinitely more than sufficient in itself.

And infinitely more than we deserve.

[surroundedbyblue]

Happy feast of Corpus Christi!!!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

As far as being at the cross with Him, I’ve gotten way past that. I’ve been raised with Him and seated with Him in the heavenly realms. (ref Ephesians 2:6)

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[Salvation]

You are misinterpreting the words. “Do this in remembrance of me.”

Each Mass is a re-presentation of the MEMORY of the Last Supper. We are following Christ’s instructions.

Do you have a problem with Judaisim REMEMBERING the Passover by having a special meal? Same thing.

[Ramius]

When Jesus comes back, this is one of the things he’s just gonna slap us upside the head with and say “do you guys just not get the concept of metaphor? Really???”

[rbmillerjr]

Apparently, the early Christians so disliked metaphors that they left Christ due to not liking the metaphor.

[Biggirl]

A gentle correction is in order.

First of all, there is no hatred at all coming from the Christian Catholics in regards to the form of worship, just explaining what takes place.

Second, any attacking that does take place comes from those who accept the Bible. Love is not being shown when Bible based Christian Protestants attack their Christian Catholic brothers and sisters.

Please do not forget that it is one common baptism that unite us as Christians.

[Biggirl]

No, the King of Kings will not do that.