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To: NYer

Just a simple point to ponder:

If the bread were really the flesh of Christ, and a person with a severe gluten intolerance could not consume it without harmful effects, does that mean that the “flesh”-based access to the divine is forbidden to him?

Assume that this person lived in the 1400s when modern technology didn’t exist to allow for gluten-free bread.


3 posted on 06/01/2013 1:49:10 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

another simple point to ponder....God routinely communicates with figures of speech - I’ve heard it said that there are over 200 specific types of figures of speech used by God in the scripture - thus the idea of accepting the Bible literally versus seriously runs into problems when you don’t allow for figures of speech. I take the Bible very seriously. I seriously think that God uses figures of speech, types and shadows, analogy, double entendres, symbols, metaphors, simlies, etc for a reason. I think He expects us to do the same. I would suggest that if one’s heart is in the right place on this issue, its’ not as dogmatic as some suggest.

“They shall mount up with wings like eagles....” - does not mean those who trust in the Lord have feathers and can fly.......


4 posted on 06/01/2013 1:56:19 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: James C. Bennett

The full body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ is available in communion of both types.


5 posted on 06/01/2013 2:02:11 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: James C. Bennett

I’m not sure what the Church rule is but our priest has a small container with gluten free hosts. And since we believe that the full presence of the body and blood exists in both the bread and the wine, that person can take the wine which is gluten free.


6 posted on 06/01/2013 2:03:03 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: James C. Bennett
If it were before the development of gluten-free wheat, if this person wished to receive the Eucharist, he could receive from the chalice.

Conversely, an alcoholic priest can consecrate a type of wine called must, unpasturized natural grape juice which has been only briefly exposed to air, i.e. to the action of natural yeast, with virtually zero alcohol content.

When my mother was in her dying days in the hospital, she could not swallow solids, but the priest broke off a tiny piece of the Blessed Host and softened or dissolved it somewhat in a little water, and gave her just a drop, which was all she could receive.

41 posted on 06/01/2013 7:07:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: James C. Bennett
Here is information on a host that turned into heart membrane -- Lanciano. Same blood type as on the Shroud of Turin.

Other Eicharistic miracles are cited. (There are hundreds of them. Believe -- don't settle for unbelief.

‘Bleeding’ Eucharist at Primary School in Moruga [Trinidad]
The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano, Italy (The Body and Blood of Christ) [Catholic Caucus]
Do You Believe in Eucharistic Miracles?
Eucharistic Miracle at St. Stephen's in New Boston MI.(Catholic Caucas)
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] EUCHARISTIC MIRACLES

[CATHOLIC CAUCUS]'Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity': The Miracle and Gift of the Most Holy Eucharist
Looking After a Eucharistic Miracle (Franciscan Recounts His Special Mission in Siena)
Eucharistic Miracle: 2009?
Possible Eucharistic Miracle in Poland
The Eucharistic Miracles(Catholic Caucus)
Vatican display exhibits eucharistic miracles
Eucharistic Miracle - Bolsena-Orvieto, Italy
Physician Tells of Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano -Verifies Authenticity of the Phenomenon
BLOOD TYPE FOUND IN ICONS IS SAME AS IN SHROUD OF TURIN AND 'LANCIANO MIRACLE'
Eucharistic Miracle: Lanciano,Italy-8th Century A.D.

45 posted on 06/01/2013 8:20:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: James C. Bennett
If the bread were really the flesh of Christ, and a person with a severe gluten intolerance could not consume it without harmful effects, does that mean that the “flesh”-based access to the divine is forbidden to him? Assume that this person lived in the 1400s when modern technology didn’t exist to allow for gluten-free bread.

consume only the consecrated wine....it is the full body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ!!!

91 posted on 06/03/2013 8:29:02 PM PDT by terycarl
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