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To: BillyBoy

You don’t consider Spain or Portugal far-left countries? How socialist does a country have to be before you put it in your personal “far-left” category?

Dude, I was considering your point until you discredited yourself.


16 posted on 05/29/2013 12:45:59 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: Owl558
>> You don’t consider Spain or Portugal far-left countries? How socialist does a country have to be before you put it in your personal “far-left” category? Dude, I was considering your point until you discredited yourself. <<

If Spain is "far-left", so the United States. The country veers directions all the time. It's had periods of strong leftist rule and periods of strong right-wing rule. For years it was under the iron fist rule of General Franco, who leftists tried unsucessfully to oust. During the early 2000's, Prime Minister José María Aznar López was a staunch Bush ally. He lost to a socialist after a terrorist attack in the country, but the conservatives have since returned to power and the current prime minister (since 2011) is Mariano Rajoy Brey, a Roman Catholic from the People's Party (Ideology: Conservatism, Christian democracy,Spanish nationalism; Economic free-markets, Spanish unionism, Political position: Centre-right to Right-wing) If that's your idea of "far-left" you have a very different idea of far-left than anyone else.

Not sure about Portugal but a quick google search shows the "center-right" party is in power there too, NOT the far-left wing. I'm guessing what passes for "center-right" there is probably more liberal than our "center-right", but hopefully not as bad as "conservatives" like David Cameron and Nicholas Sarkozy.

In any case, certainly it can't be compared to a genuinely far-left wing like the Scandinavian countries that liberal always gush over as sooooo "progressive" because they have the first gay head of state, legalized euthanasia, legalized drugs, have extreme envirowacko policies, taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgery, etc., etc. THOSE countries are so left they make Obama look moderate and the political parities in Iceland and Norway are unabashed socialist internationalists, ideologically where Bernie Sanders is.

Finally, perhaps you missed my point about Hispanic Catholics behind much more left-wing than their non-hispanic counterparts. I didn't argue any spanish-speaking Catholic country was solidly conservative.

17 posted on 05/29/2013 1:14:50 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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