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To: Maceman

Central economic planning? Sonny boy, you are wrong on at least three different levels.

The Pope rightly views that the love of money is root of much evil. God is good. All other things are lesser and/or evil. The use of money as a tool in order to accomplish something is laudable and fits well within the Pope’s vision. The pursuit of money as an end in itself is a sin and abomination, to be publicly condemned,


60 posted on 05/27/2013 5:41:54 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"ideologies which uphold the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation, and thus deny the right of control to states, which are themselves charged with providing for the common good." He said inadequate regulation has resulted in "a new, invisible and at times virtual, tyranny ... one which unilaterally and irremediably imposes its own laws and rules."

"Not to share one's goods with the poor is to rob them and to deprive them of life," he said, quoting St. John Chrysostom. "It is not our goods that we possess, but theirs."

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/05/16/Pope-Francis-warns-against-cult-of-money-urges-more-help-for-poor/UPI-50571368738835/#ixzz2UUyJsa8e

61 posted on 05/27/2013 6:21:07 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Don't bother with dolts who talk about how bad a given Pope was.

If some Pope had a different personal interpretation of what “Christian Liberty” covers, so what?

The people blathering on about this or that bad Pope all live by Self Alone and the worship of their own, Most High and Holy Self anyway so what they point to as bad behavior today they may say is completely acceptable behavior next week.

After all, nearly all non-Catholics now preach that murdering your own children with contraceptives is no big deal after four hundred plus years of preaching that such murder was sin. Their "Christian Liberty" permits infanticide and whatever else they feel like doing.

The fact is, the worst thing you can say about the Popes they point to is that they behaved like a bunch of Protestants when they knew better than to do so. And even the worst Pope didn't throw out part of the Scripture the way Protestants and Protestant derived folks have.

64 posted on 05/27/2013 5:07:14 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: MarkBsnr

“”The Pope rightly views that the love of money is root of much evil. God is good. All other things are lesser and/or evil. The use of money as a tool in order to accomplish something is laudable and fits well within the Pope’s vision. The pursuit of money as an end in itself is a sin and abomination, to be publicly condemned,””

Right on target, Mark!

As Hilaire Belloc points out the true Liberal (calvinstic) system that people have been brainwashed into thinking is conservative. This system is destructive and the foundation of american economics

From Belloc...

Though the iron Calvinist affirmations (the core of which was an admission of evil into the Divine nature by the permission of but One Will in the universe) have rusted away, yet his vision of a Moloch God remains; and the coincident Calvinist devotion to material success, the Calvinist antagonism to poverty and humility, survive in full strength. Usury would not be eating up the modern world but for Calvin nor, but for Calvin, would men debase themselves to accept inevitable doom; nor, but for Calvin, would Communism be with us as it is today, nor, but for Calvin, would Scientific Monism dominate as it (till recently) did the modern world, killing the doctrine of miracle and paralysing Free Will.

This man was a Frenchman, Jean Cauvin (or Calvin), the son of an ecclesiastical official, steward and lawyer to the See of Noyon. After the excommunication of his father for embezzlement and the confiscation by his Bishop of much of the income which he, Jean Calvin, himself enjoyed, he, John, set to work - and a mighty work it was.

He was already on the revolutionary side in religion; he would perhaps have been in any case a chief figure among those who were for the destruction of the old religion. But whatever his motive, he was certainly the founder of a new religion. For John Calvin it was who set up a counter-Church.

He proved, if ever any man did, the power of logic the triumph of reason, even when abused, and the victory of intelligence over mere instinct and feeling. He framed a complete new theology, strict and consistent, wherein there was no room for priesthood or sacraments; he launched an attack not anti-clerical, not of a negative kind, but positive, just as Mohammed had done nine hundred years before. He was a true heresiarch, and though his effect in the actual imposition of dogma has not had a much longer life than that of Arianism yet the spiritual mood he created has lasted on into our day.

http://www.traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/What_was_the_Reformation.html

Pope Francis understands the destructive forces


66 posted on 05/28/2013 5:13:09 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatst gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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