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Pray and Grow Rich: Neo-Pentecostalism gives Rome a run for its money
The American Spectator ^ | May 16, 2013 | Christopher Orlet

Posted on 05/16/2013 9:29:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Many Vatican-watchers interpreted the election of Pope Francis as Rome’s counter-offensive against the rise of neo-Pentecostalism in the global South. Pentecostalism is the fastest growing sect in the Latin America, where a third of the world’s Catholics live, and is giving the established Roman Church a run for its money — so to speak.

The latest figures show that the numbers of Pentecostals throughout Latin America has soared since 1970 — when they represented a mere 4 percent of the population — to nearly 30 percent. In Guatemala it is estimated that four in ten are Pentecostals.

Reasons for the rise of evangelical Protestant denominations are legion, but one popular theory states that the poor benighted masses, many of whom recently left rural areas and relocated to crowded urban centers, are drawn to neo-Pentecostalism’s prosperity gospel with its charismatic leaders, boisterous worship services, emphasis on signs and wonders, and promise of certain riches. Join our church and God will make you rich, powerful, successful, etc. It is a message with all of the grace of a casino billboard. It is the opposite of indulgences. This time it is God who is pulling out his wallet.

The idea is that God wants the righteous to be happy and blessed. While this means all the usual stuff: grace, forgiveness of sins, salvation, eternal paradise, it also means happiness for the here and now in the mundane form of cash, cars, boats, vacation homes. In a word, mammon. Exhibit A is the Rev. Joel Osteen, one of the most vocal proponents of the prosperity gospel (though he doesn’t like the term) whose net worth is estimated at $40 million. Now that’s living right....

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TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholics; joelosteen; pentecostals; popefrancis
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1 posted on 05/16/2013 9:29:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

name it and claim it, prosperity gospel, is bunk. the only ones getting rich are the charlatan preachers of this, including Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyers and others.


2 posted on 05/16/2013 9:35:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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Prosperity Gospel is a wicked heresy. I doubt very many even understand the Gospel in such groups. A friend of mine was sucked into that stuff for years. She reported that she had never once heard the Gospel in any meaningful way. She was totally ignorant of what Christ actually taught, until she came out of it after some bad encounters with “Prophets” getting tyrannical.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 9:35:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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Don't know if you know my story, but I'm still a little miffed to be turned back when I had done all of the hard part of dying of blunt injury trauma in a blizzard on the side of a mountain.

I'll manage the petty details like money, or lack of.

Harumph. I was so very close.

/johnny

4 posted on 05/16/2013 9:37:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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5 posted on 05/16/2013 9:40:14 PM PDT by narses
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BUT.....the old religious views that we are meant to suffer on earth, to have constant hardship, to be endlessly in misery, and that joy, smiling, fun, and prosperity is bad is totally misguided.......I don't believe God meant us to be unhappy and miserable...HE meant us to be happy on this earth..to be joyful....

Make a joyful noise unto the Lord...

6 posted on 05/16/2013 9:42:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

He means for us to be on earth to be obedient, thankful and useful. In the Proverbs, and elsewhere, there are many practical pieces of the successful-living puzzle.
The main point that shows name it/claim it to be in error is when their teachers try to coax us into emulating God by speaking things into existence. It is what the serpent suggested to Eve, as a matter of fact.
God DOES have an economy of multiplication; but we kid ourselves if we even for a moment think we have God on a string. He calls the shots; and miracles do happen; but it’s His sovereignty and purposes that bring them about — not our words.


7 posted on 05/16/2013 10:04:55 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU...)
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To: cherry

The idea, however, that we are looking for wealth and prosperity instead of spiritual riches simply goes contrary to what Christ taught:

Mat 6:19-21 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: (20) But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: (21) For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


8 posted on 05/16/2013 10:49:26 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Osteen has $40 million he can hire someone to be good for him.


9 posted on 05/16/2013 11:11:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More than it being Catholic v/s non-Catholic, the Prosperity Gospel is particularly insidious. It has a catchy tune, but what happens to people who don’t get rich — do they just reject Christ completely?


10 posted on 05/17/2013 1:52:46 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

prosperity gospel is just bunk and it is in no way protestant


11 posted on 05/17/2013 1:54:34 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many Vatican-watchers interpreted the election of Pope Francis as Rome’s counter-offensive against the rise of neo-Pentecostalism in the global South.

If this is so, then "many Vatican-watchers" have a completely worldly mindset and would be much better off paying attention to their own spiritual lives.

12 posted on 05/17/2013 4:25:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sarah is right.)
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This particular type of "theology" ( i am loathe to call it that) I find most irritating. I recall a version of this to be popular among the Amway crowd in the 1980's. For the record I have nothing wrong with Amway, it's a good product. But to watch some of these snake oil salesmen work the crowds at conventions in retrospect was shameful. The implication was that if you weren't successful it was because your faith was weak, or you were doing something wrong. If you weren't successful it was your fault. Go to the ministers (paid) speech, buy their expensive cassettes and you'll get it right. Or so they implied.

CC

13 posted on 05/17/2013 5:09:37 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: GeronL
prosperity gospel is just bunk and it is in no way protestant

nor is it pentecostal.

14 posted on 05/19/2013 4:41:26 PM PDT by Red Boots
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