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To: Elsie
We are veering away from the Sabbath thingy.

No, it's part and parcel...

There are some in this thread that seem to be VERY emphatic that God must be worshipped on the SABBATH; [...]

Point of order: Every day is a good day to worship - That ain't exactly it.

The Sabbath is about worship, and about rest, and about family. In it you are not to work, nor your animals, nor anyone in your house. You are not to travel, or do business. It is primarily a celebration of the creative work of the Father, sanctified in Genesis. It starts Friday at sunset, and continues to Saturday at sunset.

[...] but there is disagreement over just what IS the 'sabbath' and did anyone actually CHANGE it.

There is no disagreement. the Sabbath IS Saturday. It always has been Saturday. What the disagreement is about is whether the Roman church had the authority to change it to Sunday, and whether the Protestants are prepared to follow Sola-Scriptura (as is their wont), or to continue to pay homage to Rome - Because you will find no place in the Word where the Sabbath is changed at all.

just who are His people these days? Jews? Gentiles?? Both???

His covenant is made with the House of Judah, and the House of Israel... And the gentiles can be grafted in (which means that the Covenant is for everyone, as has always been the case from the beginning). Of course, all three have to abide by the covenant for it to have effect, and as always, abiding thereby is a personal responsibility first, but with national or group implications as well.

Just what DOES God 'require' from 'His people'?

What is required is to believe upon the Son. He has taken the curses that are ours upon Himself. BUT, we are to emulate him, and to keep the commandments. We are not tied to the Torah by curses any longer... but if we love YHWH, we will keep his commandments... And let's not forget that while Yeshua died to take away the curses, the blessings remain.

Among those commandments is the direct instruction to keep HIS Holy Days and to keep His Sabbath Day.

370 posted on 05/22/2013 5:25:38 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
This statement by you pretty well nails it down:

What is required is to believe upon the Son. He has taken the curses that are ours upon Himself. BUT, we are to emulate him, and to keep the commandments. We are not tied to the Torah by curses any longer... but if we love YHWH, we will keep his commandments... And let's not forget that while Yeshua died to take away the curses, the blessings remain.

Thanks for this great post.........it's too bad the Main Stream Christians cannot understand this concept.

371 posted on 05/22/2013 5:44:08 PM PDT by Diego1618 (q1)
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To: roamer_1
BUT, we are to emulate him, and to keep the commandments.

And if you CAN'T?

374 posted on 05/22/2013 8:26:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: roamer_1

The first sabbath wasn’t on a Saturday.. it was on the 22nd day of the 2nd month per exodus.. then it would lead it to be the next would have come on the 29th22nd of that month as commanded by God. Then the new moon would dictate the first day of the next month... 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th of each month determined by the moon (not like our sun calendar today) .... and the sabbath will move on different days of the week if we are truly following His word... problem is, the sabbath could be on a few Tuesdays in our ‘traditional’ days of week within a ‘tradional’month.. tough to ask off these days when churches temples govts have chosen Saturday or Sunday (or friday for Muslims)... our 5 day work week isn’t from God. Nor is our calendar... We have all been deceived about the Sabbath... when you search this out and discover it on your own, what would you do? Keep His Sabbath or your churches? Your govt? Your temple? Your false prophets? Not an easy question as we have been conditioned to mans calendar ....His Sabbath will occur on Saturdays and Sundays and Fridays and etc.... now let every one wrap around that concept...


389 posted on 06/04/2013 9:11:45 AM PDT by delchiante
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