““Not because the Father in Him”?? You’re making that up,”
How, exactly, am I making that up? Isn’t it you who is making it up that when Christ takes on a title of God, applying it to Himself “I am,” that He was really just KIDDING? Why go through the trouble of accepting worship, which no man or angel ever does, and being called Almighty, and declaring His sovereign right to be so called, and yet have it all be “well, not really ME! Just the Father, is who I really mean.” As for John 14, there is nothing to dodge in there at all.
“At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.”
Christ even says that the Father is in Him, and HE is in the Father. And then WE are in Christ. From your logic, whenever the Father glorifies Himself, is He glorifying the Son within Him? When Christ glorifies Himself, is He speaking of us as the Alpha and the Omega?
Your logic sure is illogical, and I lifted up my eyebrow Spock style for you too.
“There is no separation. God tried to tell you in John 14, but you don’t believe his words there.”
So I take it you’re a pantheist? It is illogical to apply it only to the Son and the Father, when we’re in there too.
**As for John 14, there is nothing to dodge in there at all.**
That good! Because I’m going to take a stroll through there, starting with one of my favorite verses.....yep the one you quoted:
“At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.” John 14:20
Notice Jesus Christ said, “AT THAT DAY”. What day?...the day when people are filled with his Spirit (aka Comforter, aka Holy Ghost).
He started out explaining how he is the Father’s express image in divinity: “..he that hath seen me hath seen the Father (9)....the Father that dwelleth IN ME, he doeth the works.” (10); but the Son in humanity: “..the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself...”.(10). “..and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me”. (24). He of his own self could do nothing. Why?...because the man Christ Jesus was not sent to do his own will, but the Father that sent him. John 5:30. But, back to ‘AT THAT DAY”.....
The Christ said that the Comforter will not come unless he goes away. 16:7. AND told the disciples in 14:17 “ye know him for he dwelleth with you, and shall be IN you. “I will not leave you comfortless: I will COME to you.” (18). How?...as the Comforter.
He had to go away physically, because he couldn’t abide physically with ‘whosover will’ constantly. It’s not physically possible. He had to return as the Comforter so that ‘whosoever will’ can receive of him, and because of his being poured out, “..the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” 14:12
**Christ even says that the Father is in Him, and HE is in the Father. And then WE are in Christ.**
Yes, but only after being filled with his Spirit.
17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
And I like how he started into that prayer (17:3)...”And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”
Jesus Christ is God because ALL the fulness of the ONLY God dwells in him. (Col. 1:19; 2:9)