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To: Iscool
I read those...Did you ever read those...They both have red letters and one has got Verily, two times...You don't want to miss out on the Verily(s),that's the important stuff...

John 6:27 Do not work for food that perishes but for the food that endures for eternal life,* which the Son of Man will give you. For on him the Father, God, has set his seal.”l 28So they said to him, “What can we do to accomplish the works of God?” 29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in the one he sent.” 30So they said to him, “What sign can you do, that we may see and believe in you? What can you do?m 31* Our ancestors ate manna in the desert, as it is written:n

‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”

32So Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave the bread from heaven; my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.o 33For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34p So they said to him, “Sir, give us this bread always.”

35* Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.q

36But I told you that although you have seen [me], you do not believe.r 37Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me, 38because I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of the one who sent me.s 39And this is the will of the one who sent me, that I should not lose anything of what he gave me, but that I should raise it [on] the last day.t 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him [on] the last day.”u

41The Jews murmured about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven,” 42and they said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph? Do we not know his father and mother? Then how can he say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?”v

43Jesus answered and said to them, “Stop murmuring* among yourselves.w

44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day.

45It is written in the prophets:

‘They shall all be taught by God.’

Everyone who listens to my Father and learns from him comes to me.

x 46Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God; he has seen the Father.y

47Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.

48I am the bread of life.

49Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;z

50this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.

51I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”a

52The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”

53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.

Izzy I will see your veril's and raise you two "Amens." Do YOU eat Jesus? If you don't you don't have life in you.

149 posted on 05/07/2013 7:05:29 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

The key to the verses you quoted is to understand if Jesus was speaking figuratively or literally about bread and food. It is clear from the context of the surrounding verses that Jesus was speaking figuratively of spiritual food. Jesus just supplied the crowd with physical bread, but many didn’t have a true belief in Him. They only followed him because He was a miracle worker and not because they were truly devoted to Him as the Son of God.

This is another example of Jesus using a parable or figurative language to express a deeper meaning. Eating or consuming His flesh represents a total trust and belief in Him.


150 posted on 05/07/2013 8:23:09 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: verga
35* Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.

Have you been hungry lately, or thirsty??? Sure you have...So what's the deal??? Either Jesus was lying or you don't understand what he is saying...If you can't figure this one out, you certainly can't get the next one...

Izzy I will see your veril's and raise you two "Amens." Do YOU eat Jesus? If you don't you don't have life in you

Did anyone in the scriptures eat Jesus' flesh??? Of course not...According to you guys, Jesus turned his flesh into bread and his blood into wine...Did anyone in the scriptures turn Jesus flesh and blood into bread and wine??? Nope...Any where in scripture where Jesus told anyone to turn His flesh and blood into bread and wine??? Of course not...Any where in scripture where Jesus told anyone how to turn Jesus' body into flesh??? Of course not...

Now since you DO get hungy when Jesus said you wouldn't, you think maybe you're jumping to some giant conclusions here about eating Jesus' flesh being literal???

And what did Peter say??? Did he say that Jesus had the flesh of eternal life??? No he didn't...

Joh 6:68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
Joh 6:69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

The words...The belief...And what about the words???

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The spirit??? Which spirit does quickeneth???

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

The spirit that raises or quickens is the Holy Spirit...The verse, John 6:33 is about God...The flesh in the same verse is Jesus...It profits nothing...You can bake it, barbeque it, roast it on a stick or eat it raw...It profits nothing...

It's the words that are the key...They are spiritual and they are life...That's why the unbelievers left...They didn't get the spiritual meaning of the command to eat the flesh...

And Yes, I eat Jesus...And I eat the words of Jesus...

Jer 15:16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

Nobody eats the literal flesh of Jesus...It's just a cracker with a good scam behind it...

155 posted on 05/07/2013 9:37:39 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: verga
Do YOU eat Jesus? If you don't you don't have life in you.

Are Syro-Phoenicians DOGS?


Mark 7:24-33

Jesus got up and went away from there to the region of Tyre. And when He had entered a house, He wanted no one to know of it; yet He could not escape notice. But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.

Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter.

And He was saying to her, “Let the children be satisfied first, for it is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.”

But she answered and said to Him, “Yes, Lord, but even the dogs under the table feed on the children’s crumbs.”

And He said to her, “Because of this answer go; the demon has gone out of your daughter.”
And going back to her home, she found the child lying on the bed, the demon having left.

157 posted on 05/07/2013 9:47:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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