One man's useless is anothers Conspiracy Theory.
Just read around my stuff.
Posted on 05/01/2013 6:54:27 AM PDT by marshmallow
Reading Sherry Weddell’s excellent Forming Intentional Disciples is making me think about the American church and what ails her. Can anybody deny that there is a sickness in the body ecclesia? When 50% of Catholics vote for a man who stoutly defends same sex marriage and partial birth abortion can we say that Catholics in America are okay?
I don’t think so.
Thus a series of posts on what’s killing Catholicism. All the words begin with the letter ‘C’. I can’t help it. I was brought up as a Biblical Evangelical and our pastors always used alliteration to make their points memorable.
The first problem is cultural catholicism. The Poles, Italians, Irish, French, Czech, German and more Catholics came here from the old country and the bishops reckoned the best thing to do with them all was to allow cultural parishes. So in the same town the Irish Catholics went to St Patrick’s and the Poles to St Stanislaus and the Italians to St Anthony of Padua. Geesh, a man in my parish who grew up in Reading, Pennsylvania said that when he was a boy a girl from his Czech parish fell in love with an Irish boy and the Irish priest wouldn’t marry them because it was a mixed marriage.
I’m all for cultural customs and so forth, but the problem is that the immigrant Catholics–in a foreign land–clung to their culture for security and happiness and part of that culture was their Catholicism. The didn’t distinguish their culture from their Catholicism. Then, after a few generations, when they were all really American and stopped being Italian or Irish or German they also stopped being Catholic. The Catholic faith wasn’t much deeper than Mama’s special spaghetti sauce or stories of the Blarney stone.
Of course they didn’t.........
(Excerpt) Read more at patheos.com ...
SLC learned IT's lessons well; too!
Speaking of STONE...
(But I'd better check first to see that the length isn't too long to be understood.)
LOL, no kidding, he and I probably mostly agree as well.
WHERE???
I didn't see us mentioned!
--MormonDude(Phooey on Obama!)
OTOH; the public record shows that he's been deceived by a religion than can be easily shown to be a false one.
Many did NOT this kind of a man running the country; unable to discern between fact and fiction.
Please don’t start spamming the thread with those useless posts by the dozens.
This is one of the better TarBaby questions I've ever seen posed!
I’m sure that the three of do on most every issue!
I’m a bit late getting online today for I had to actually interact with REAL problems!
Long grass; cantankerous mowers, lots of weeds; sunny skies just MADE for lying under.
Goats I forgot to let out this morning...
In the Bible Belt. Answer a question before you start asking them.
I looked @ The Census Bureau to figure out how many registered voters there were in 2008... (See) Voting and Registration in the Election of ... - Census Bureau www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf)
They said 146 million in 2008...
Citing 3 references, this source -- http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2258200 -- says that in 2008 there were 47 million Catholic registered voters.
So...Catholic voters were 32.2% of ALL likely voters in 2008!
So..if we extrapolate 2008 registration #s into the 2012 presidential voting totals...32.2% of 124.9 million 2012 votes = over 40 million votes likely cast by Catholics in 2012.
Over HALF of these 40 million voted for Obama...so I actually BADLY underestimated how many Catholic votes went for Obama in my last post...I said 14.5 million...'twas actually over 20 million...
And when you also figure in that 53% of Catholics voted for Obama in 2008...that just compounded the whole thing.
Bottom-line: Over 20 million Obama Catholic votes is OVER 30% of all of his votes...And over 20 million Catholic votes -- out of say 48 million Catholics who are registered to vote (I added a million new registered Catholic voters 'tween 2008-2012 just to be generous)...= about 42+% of all registered Catholic voters are liberal...and, actually, make the effort, to vote...
So this 42% even takes into consideration your dilution of registered Catholic voters who didn't vote.
42% of registered Catholics is far above your 25% citation.
One man's useless is anothers Conspiracy Theory.
Just read around my stuff.
I can’t post any answers until I know where ‘around here” is, the “bible belt” is a vast region, it is huge and encompasses states and major cities and black population centers, ports, everything, it doesn’t tell us anything.
You keep posting to me about your neighborhood, but I have no idea where it is, at least tell us what county it is, or city, or at least a state.
....”If you want to continue focusing on the most conservative group in America as the problem”....
Did I say they were THE problem? No I did not. But I think it’s wrong to assume Evanglelicals are on the same page when it comes to politics...they aren’t.
Some Sheepdog.
Region and area specific rules for taking care of the sheep. Thanks, I don’t need any more answer than that.
Voting 80% the same, indicates that they are on the “same page” in a political sense.
And you know this how? Where are your stats?
Did you poll each and every member yourself? How do we know that's an objective poll? Did you have someone verify it?
Well, now you're asking for trouble.....
Speaking of being cantankerous.
Look, you appear to be making up the most bizarre ridiculous claims about your city and voting.
Claims that are silly and obviously false, you refuse to admit to where this city is and we know why.
It is hard to make up fake voting claims when we know where you are talking about.
Of course, people who never get near an Evangelical church other than their own can just make up whatever they like, create statistics based on excluding people who don't fit the result they want, and go from there.
Some sheepdog.
Ignores his own flock and throw stones at another flock.
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