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To: Natural Law
Corporeal and Spiritual Works of Mercy proceed from Salvation. Their absence is proof that Salvation too is absent.

Not necessarily because it depends on who's doing the judging and what standard they are using. And just who decides what those are?

Does the Catholic church have a laundry list of those as well for people to check off to make sure they're good?

What about someone like Lot? Peter called him *righteous*. Hardly a term I'd apply to him. And the Pharisees kept the Law to a *T* and Jesus called them whitewashed tombs.

Does it make Catholics feel better to be able to pigeon hole people?

What the biggest indicator of a new heart and eternal life is a changed life. Not just a bunch of works that someone can add and fool themselves into thinking they're saved because they're doing them.

212 posted on 05/02/2013 2:46:37 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"What the biggest indicator of a new heart and eternal life is a changed life."

There is a difference between an act done to benefit oneself and acts done strictly for the good of others, even if it is the exact same act. We can fool other people and at times can even fool ourselves, but we cannot fool God. We cannot judge when these Works of Mercy are genuine, and to the recipient it doesn't really matter, however it is readily apparent when they are absent. Where they are absent so too is Salvation.

There is a reason that the Church feeds, shelters, nurses, educates, and serves more people daily than all other organizations combined.

Peace be with you

213 posted on 05/02/2013 3:28:15 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave is a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: metmom
What the biggest indicator of a new heart and eternal life is a changed life. Not just a bunch of works that someone can add and fool themselves into thinking they're saved because they're doing them.

Or a bunch of works that someone can add and fool themselves into thinking they will be saved because they keep on doing them.

218 posted on 05/02/2013 6:18:38 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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