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To: SeekAndFind

Until the atheist can tell us where matter and time came from, they don’t know if there is a God or not, but in their religion there isn’t.

What ticks me off about atheists is that they then claim those that believe in God are not capable of being scientists and never have been scientists, yet, most scientific discoveries have been made by people of faith.

Atheists fail to understand that having faith does not magically prevent a person from wanting to know about the universe around us.


13 posted on 04/19/2013 6:54:56 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

Quite the contrary. Sadly, they’ve convinced a generation of Christian to remain in ignorance.


23 posted on 04/19/2013 7:06:52 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: CodeToad

Precisely.

Time is infinite. They cannot comprehend it being infinite, so they create a silly hypothesis that time doesn’t exist when they say it doesn’t exist.

They set aside the fundamental rule of science that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, in order to answer the “where did it come from” question.

We as humans cannot fathom the infinite and there is no way to explain how matter could have always existed nor how matter was suddenly created.

The issue of infinite space is also ignored because it just cannot be fathomed. There is no reason to believe that the grand sum of matter derived from the big bang (if there was one). If there was one point where compressed matter reached critical mass and exploded, there could be millions, after all, we have no explanation for where the matter came from to begin with. In fact, why would we think that critical mass would only occur at 100% of available matter was available? Instead of the “faster than the speed of light” explanations for early expansion, it would make more sense that there was still matter in the process of collapsing, when the big bang occurred.

Perhaps our visible universe is just a popping kernel in a kettle of popcorn, where “big bangs” hurl matter at each other, until it coalesces and pops again.


25 posted on 04/19/2013 7:07:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: CodeToad
Atheists fail to understand that having faith does not magically prevent a person from wanting to know about the universe around us.

This is certainly true of the Catholics and Jews with whom I've conversed.

It is true of some Protestants also.

But fundamentalist young-earthers? Ummm.....nope.

66 posted on 04/19/2013 8:12:33 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ('Institutions will try to preserve the problems to which they are a solution.' - Clay Shirky)
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To: CodeToad
"Atheists fail to understand that having faith does not magically prevent a person from wanting to know about the universe around us."

Good point. However, as an agnostic, I simply can't shut down my mind and believe in some "faith" (take your pick) that I should worship some god that needs such self-esteem. Really? Is he 7 years old? He/she/it is that petty? Worship and pray to creator of the Universe while our world tears itself apart numerous time, and he ignores said prayers?

As an agnostic I believe there is something behind all this, but pearly gates and heaven and are superstitions from people who thought the world was flat. My 63 years have shown me that a benevolent all-loving god either doesn't exist or has given up on us, or it is all beyond our comprehension - which is most likely the case.

Please tell me where my reasoning is flawed and please don't quote Bible scripture written by people who thought the Sun revolved around the Earth. They thought floods, plagues, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, locusts, et al were god's will for sins against his ego. That does not equate for a god of the universe. Tell me something new that makes since and I can believe in - I want to believe in something better and beyond human-kind.

105 posted on 04/19/2013 10:38:57 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: CodeToad

Fundamentally, the faith v. reason line is a form of bigotry and should be treated as the straw man it really is. People of faith don’t lose their ability to reason. There isn’t a conflict and I know of plenty of atheists that believe in all kinds of nonsense - ZPG or NPG, global warming, socialism/communism, etc. These are the religions of the “intellectuals”. They’re more easily disproved than a belief in God.


152 posted on 04/20/2013 4:58:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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