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To: CodeToad
"Atheists fail to understand that having faith does not magically prevent a person from wanting to know about the universe around us."

Good point. However, as an agnostic, I simply can't shut down my mind and believe in some "faith" (take your pick) that I should worship some god that needs such self-esteem. Really? Is he 7 years old? He/she/it is that petty? Worship and pray to creator of the Universe while our world tears itself apart numerous time, and he ignores said prayers?

As an agnostic I believe there is something behind all this, but pearly gates and heaven and are superstitions from people who thought the world was flat. My 63 years have shown me that a benevolent all-loving god either doesn't exist or has given up on us, or it is all beyond our comprehension - which is most likely the case.

Please tell me where my reasoning is flawed and please don't quote Bible scripture written by people who thought the Sun revolved around the Earth. They thought floods, plagues, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, locusts, et al were god's will for sins against his ego. That does not equate for a god of the universe. Tell me something new that makes since and I can believe in - I want to believe in something better and beyond human-kind.

105 posted on 04/19/2013 10:38:57 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

The Masons have it right: They believe in “something” bigger and better than humans, that there is a creator of some sort. Define that as you wish: A God to some, a spiritual fabric to others, but unless someone can answer all the questions of time, matter, and space then there is something out there that we do not understand.

Not all that pray to God pray to the God of the Jews and Christians. Many pray to whatever is out there. They are called Deists. They believe there is something out there but that something does not control or interfere in our lives.

There are lots of views on this, but the arrogance of atheists to denounce faith, and therefore religion, in place of their faith and religion in the belief of nothing but the laws of physics, is nothing but childish arrogance. It also concludes things not in evidence and therefore their conclusions are not as scientific as they believe themselves to be.


115 posted on 04/19/2013 11:55:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: A Navy Vet

That’s interesting. I think what’s happened is the concept of what worship is has been lost. It isn’t a negative event for either side.

God doesn’t need the worship, we need God. If God is love (agape) and we his children then the direction of respect and love isn’t one way. He loves us more than we’re even capable of loving ourselves.


151 posted on 04/20/2013 4:55:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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