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To: DouglasKC

“Greek PLatonism ruined Christianity” is nonsense and has been totally rejected by scholars over the last 50 years.

The very reason why the Church argued over the exact details of the human and divine natures in Jesus Christ for so long is
that
all
the
rejected
solutions were not faithful to the Semitic/Jewish/original Jesus data from the Scriptures.

If they had been willing to let themselves be taken over by Greek Philosophy they would have REJECTED the Trinity. Arius was Greek, Greek, Greek, Greek, Greek — the demigod/demihuman Jesus of Arius illustrates Greek simplistic philosophy. The struggle for Trinitarianism represents a dogged determination to be faithful to the Biblical data about Jesus. It would have been so much easier and so much more amenable to the surrounding Greek philosophy to settle for a half-God Jesus, half-man Jesus.

The doctrine of the Trinity DEFIES Greek philosophy, precisely the opposite of capitulatig to Greek philosophy.

Jesus himself speaks to the Father as another Person and makes clear his own equality with the Father. He then explicitly speaks about the Father (and himself) sending the Spirit who will do X and Y, in other words, another Person.

Anti-trinitarianism gets recycled every two or three centuries by some new movement that tries to reinvent the wheel.

Tired old discredited arguments.

Waste of time.


54 posted on 04/17/2013 3:26:59 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
"Tired old discredited arguments."

Did you notice the article doesn't cite a single primary source in support of its arguments (like, for example, Plato) and relies almost exclusively on fringe 100 year old secondary sources. Pretty laughable really.

57 posted on 04/17/2013 5:13:48 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Houghton M.; DouglasKC
houghton: The doctrine of the Trinity DEFIES Greek philosophy, precisely the opposite of capitulatig to Greek philosophy.

Jesus himself speaks to the Father as another Person and makes clear his own equality with the Father. He then explicitly speaks about the Father (and himself) sending the Spirit who will do X and Y, in other words, another Person.

Anti-trinitarianism gets recycled every two or three centuries by some new movement that tries to reinvent the wheel.

well said

81 posted on 04/17/2013 11:34:16 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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