The Rise of a Counterfeit Christianity

The Church Jesus Built ^ | Various | United Church of God

[DouglasKC]

The Church Jesus Built - Introduction

A People Special to God

[hosepipe]

Is Counterfeit Christianity anything like Counterfeit Judaism or Counterfeit Islam or even Counterfeit Atheism.?.

[Mount Athos]

By the end of the third century the true servants of God had become a distinct minority among those who called themselves Christians. The counterfeit Christianity had become the majority.

Why does the author offer no supporting evidence or argumentation for this statement?

Does the Author disagree with the list of books the council of Nicea agreed upon for the bible we read today?

Does the Author disagree with the Nicean creed decided by a majority of Christian Bishops at the time?

Claiming to offer salvation, but without the necessity of real repentance, it held just enough truth to appeal to the masses.

The author bases this on... what exactly?

To achieve this, Constantine presided over doctrinal deliberations and dictated statements of belief whenever disagreements could not be resolved amicably.

With this statement, the author is flat out lying and deceiving.

Why doesn't the author give an example of a dictated statement of belief determined and decided by Constantine?
Because he can't, he is outright lying.

He soon successfully molded the bickering groups of counterfeit Christians

Sure buddy, those hundreds of Counterfeit christians who voted on the books of the bible and Nicean/Constantinople creed you follow were totally counterfeit, because you say so.

Now we can understand why Paul explained to Christians in Rome the appropriate response to those who were stirring up division within the Church: "I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them" (Romans 16:17, NIV).

Guess the author doesn't want to look in the mirror and realize this passage applies especially well to himself.

[Springfield Reformer]

Speaking of counterfeits ...

http://carm.org/ucog

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

I would recommend everyone read this link by CARM before getting too involved with this thread. You may even want to look up the UCG’s website.

Evidently, they teach that God the Son and God the Father are two separate gods, who are “one God” by being in the “Family of God.” Human beings can partake of divinity by joining the “family of God,” thus becoming God by their definition.

They claim the Holy Spirit is not a Person, but is a force. And this force they possess, which they only possess, because of their keeping the dietary, festival and other Old Testament ordinances. In order to even receive the Holy Spirit, you must have someone from the UCG lay hands and pray over you. Thus, no Christian has the Holy Spirit, since He is in the sole possession of the true church of God on Earth (the UCG).

They also claim there is salvation after death, and deny the eternal torment of the damned.

I’m sure it gets worse, but that’s just a quick overview.

[Steelfish]

Began with the curse of the Reformation and spread like wildfire with several thousands of Christian sects and preachers from Rev. Jeremiah Wright to David Koresh to Benny Hinn, and right down to your local neighborhood foursquare church pastor.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“Began with the curse of the Reformation”

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Began with the curse of Rome, with Popes who sleep with other men’s wives and get killed on the spot for it.

[onyx]

Founded in 1995.

I’ll stick with the Church founded in 33, by Jesus.

[MikeSteelBe]

“Began with the curse of Rome, with Popes who sleep with other men’s wives and get killed on the spot for it.”

And the murder of men like William Tyndale.

[D-fendr]

Lordy, Lordy, Doug.

Wasn’t the last one enough?

:)

[ladyL]

I must defend the author who you call a liar. Pretty strong accusations not coming from you actually, but from the religious spirit that speaks through you. Just one, and only one Truth that was twisted and perverted at Nicea and that was the 4th Commandment. I have proved you wrong and publically rebuke you for calling a man a liar, when he is not. Please do not respond to me as I refuse to deal with a religious spirit. I pray you come to the Truth.

[ladyL]

Excellent post...a good book addressing these issues is
The Hebrew Yeshua vs the Greek Jesus by Nehemia Gordon.
This book shows the discrepancies between the true Messiah Yeshua and the counterfeit Jesus created by the Greco Roman church. Amazon carries the book for $17.

[swampfox101]

Amen...! The rest are apostates...!

[count-your-change]

In the parable of the wheat and weeds Jesus foretold the maturing of a counterfeit Christianity that had been planted in the field along side the wheat. Only when ripe with fruitage would the separation be possible.

But was it just a few weeds growing in the field with the greater crop of wheat? No, as Jesus said the majority was on the wide road to destruction with only a few finding the narrow path to salvation.

The poisonous weeds are being exposed.

[BamaAndy]

Well done.

[Mount Athos]

Thank you for that.

[wafflehouse]

Why doesn't the author give an example of a dictated statement of belief determined and decided by Constantine?

you mean something like this?

From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present at the Council (of Nicea, 324 A.D.) - Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-20

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.html from the PDF: page 134 of 1264

see also, slightly different translation here:
http://www.fourthcentury.com/index.php/urkunde-26

Three selected quotes:

“It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded.”

“We ought not therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way…”

“…We desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast.”

[Mount Athos]

Reread point #3 in the document you cited.

It directly contradicts the idea that Constantine unilaterally decided anything at the Council of Nicea.

In fact he had no say in deciding any religious issue for Christians beyond asking for the convened Bishops of the whole Christian Church to proclaim what is correct.

IAccording to the second author you cite, historian Eusubius, The Emperor had no vote on any issue before the council of Bishops, and was present as an observer.

[KevinDavis]

I take it you are not a fan of the 1st Amendment.. You know the one that forbids this Government to establish an official religion.. Reformation was a good thing..