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To: DouglasKC
By the end of the third century the true servants of God had become a distinct minority among those who called themselves Christians. The counterfeit Christianity had become the majority.

Why does the author offer no supporting evidence or argumentation for this statement?

Does the Author disagree with the list of books the council of Nicea agreed upon for the bible we read today?

Does the Author disagree with the Nicean creed decided by a majority of Christian Bishops at the time?

Claiming to offer salvation, but without the necessity of real repentance, it held just enough truth to appeal to the masses.

The author bases this on... what exactly?

To achieve this, Constantine presided over doctrinal deliberations and dictated statements of belief whenever disagreements could not be resolved amicably.

With this statement, the author is flat out lying and deceiving.

Why doesn't the author give an example of a dictated statement of belief determined and decided by Constantine?
Because he can't, he is outright lying.

He soon successfully molded the bickering groups of counterfeit Christians

Sure buddy, those hundreds of Counterfeit christians who voted on the books of the bible and Nicean/Constantinople creed you follow were totally counterfeit, because you say so.

Now we can understand why Paul explained to Christians in Rome the appropriate response to those who were stirring up division within the Church: "I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them" (Romans 16:17, NIV).

Guess the author doesn't want to look in the mirror and realize this passage applies especially well to himself.
3 posted on 04/12/2013 12:17:40 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

I must defend the author who you call a liar. Pretty strong accusations not coming from you actually, but from the religious spirit that speaks through you. Just one, and only one Truth that was twisted and perverted at Nicea and that was the 4th Commandment. I have proved you wrong and publically rebuke you for calling a man a liar, when he is not. Please do not respond to me as I refuse to deal with a religious spirit. I pray you come to the Truth.


11 posted on 04/12/2013 2:04:10 AM PDT by ladyL
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To: Mount Athos
Why doesn't the author give an example of a dictated statement of belief determined and decided by Constantine?

you mean something like this?

From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present at the Council (of Nicea, 324 A.D.) - Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-20

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.html from the PDF: page 134 of 1264

see also, slightly different translation here:
http://www.fourthcentury.com/index.php/urkunde-26

Three selected quotes:

“It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded.”

“We ought not therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way…”

“…We desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast.”

18 posted on 04/12/2013 2:57:21 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Mount Athos

WHO STARTED YOUR CHURCH?
There are more than 30000 different Christian churches teaching different doctrines.
How did they split into so many?
Starting about 400 years ago:
If you are Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
The Anabaptist religion splintered from the Lutherans in 1520, founded by Nicholas Storch and Thomas Munzer.
The Menonite Church is an offshoot of the Anabaptist Church founded in 1525 and takes its name from Menno Simons, a former Catholic priest.
The Angelicans belong to the Church of England and your religion was founded by King Henry the VIII in the year 1534, because the Pope wouldn’t grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Sctland in 1560.
Protestant Episcopalian? Your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England and founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
If you are a Baptist, John Smyth began it in 1605 in Amsterdam.
The Congregationalist religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
Quakers began their religion in 1647 by George Fox in England.
If you are Amish, your Church was founded by Jacob Anman in 1693.
If you are Methodist, you religion was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.
Unitarian religion founded in 1774 by Theophilus Lindley in London.
If you are Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, N.Y. in 1829.
If you are Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis Jones as founder. Originated in 1828.
If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect was began by William Booth in London in 1865.
If you are a Christian Scientist, 1879 was started by Mary Baker Eddy.
If you are a member of the Assemblies of God, your religion was founded by Charles Parham in Topeka Kansas in 1901.
If you belong to the Church of the Nazarene, your religion was started in 1908.
If you are a Jehova’s Witness, your religion was started by Charles Taze Russell in 1931.
If you are a Catholic , you belong to the Church that was founded around the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God. Jesus appointed the first Pope (Mathew 16:19) and as Catholics we can trace our apostolic lineage from Pope Peter to Pope Francis.
For 1500 years Christians were united in one Church. The splintering that has taken place since the Catholic Church began has been a failed experiment. Pray for Christian Unity.
This is some what paraphrased form a Mathew Kelly article that was emailed and I could not get it to post.


21 posted on 04/12/2013 4:44:48 AM PDT by spudville
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To: Mount Athos

>> “Does the Author disagree with the Nicean creed decided by a majority of Christian Bishops at the time?” <<

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LOL!

The Nicean nonsense is counterfeit Christianity!

Torah is what Yeshua taught! Not one jot or tittle of Torah is to cease until all shall be accomplished.


42 posted on 04/12/2013 11:18:47 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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