So...High-level Lds leaders are already indicating they among the Mormon DISbelievers!
And, that such "disbelief" is rampant among them!
Also, they have disclosed that if an Lds apostle isn't already a millionaire, the Lds church ensures they become one!
Along with these "revelations," the "inside term" High-level Lds leaders use for both the selection process and early "grooming" of Lds newbie "apostles" is "church broke"...IOW, "will they do whatever they are told" by the six senior "apostles?" Are they "sold out" to the church structure?
And many of these high-level Lds leaders realize the Mormon church is on the precipice of going over the cliff...or, to use their own metaphor: The weakened Lds dam is about to break wide open!
From the report: The GA said the church is like a weakened dam. At first you dont see cracks on the face; nevertheless, things are happening behind the scenes. Eventually, small cracks appear, and then the dam will explode. When it does, he said, the members are going to be shocked and will need scholars/historians like me to educate them regarding the Mormon past. The Mission President and the GA both said they attend church every Sunday and feel like a hypocrite and trapped.
The Internet age has brought about a "dam" about to break upon Mormonism. The flood of truth cannot be contained by its general authorities; in fact, even they realize it -- but are now patronizing its grass roots in believing they cannot handle the full truth.
The modern dissenters better be praying that there are no
Danites or Porter Rockwells to do the work of the leaders.
Within a few weeks I went with him to their church, laid out the evidence to the church leadership (which they could not refute) and that young man walked out of the Mormon church that day, and joined a bible teaching church that I was a member of, met and married a young christian girl, and has continued as one of the most outspoken critics of the Mormon cult.
Here's a 2012 podcast interview you can listen to between Dehlin and Grant Palmer: Grant Palmer on Sexual Allegations Against Joseph Smith, William and Jane Law, and His Resignation
I've suspected that the cult used some kind of legal means to keep people quiet. Perhaps giving them loans that can be called due of they step out of line. Can you tell us more about this point? May dad was a church employee for 20 years before he left. I myself did a bit of consulting for them 15 years ago. This is what I have learned myself: Intellectual reserve, the legal proprietary arm of the church, makes you sign a contract. You cannot disclose what you did for them, how much you were paid or that you were hired as a contractor (I was). You cannot keep copies of the work, talk or publish it, it is owned it its entirety by the church. General authorities (I don't know of this applies to 2nd quorum of the 70's) sign over their property over to a trust, if you violate your contract they keep your property. What I have researched and heard from other ex- leaders: Since the time of BY, the church "lends" money to GA's for personal projects. This money is interest free and does not have to be repaid (this is for legal, tax and doctrinal reasons) if you tow the line. If you step out of line it becomes due and it is a lien on your property. Any income from sitting on boards, as director, consultant, etc- which is what the 12 spend most of their time doing, you keep, if you leave, since you are a representative of the church on those boards, you lose and may have to pay back. of course you loose your "living expenses" (60-120K), your access to church property for personal use (Hawaii, Florida, Europe, etc) This is how a "humble" life long seminary teacher (BKP) or meager church employee (GBH) can end up as millionaires as pass on significant wealth to family members. If you step out of line, its all gone and you are in serious legal trouble.
wow
This is huge and should adversely affect church membership but will it? Doubtful.
The leadership admitting that their founding “prophet” was a fraud. WOW!!
(All caps on the “WOW” with double exclamation points!!)
So THIS is why any question sent their direction always get batted back down to the lower levels!
Heck; ANYone with two or more functioning brain cells to rub together 'believeth not' as well!
Right; teppe??
Aside from physics, a persons beliefs can only be proven to themselves. Everything else is simply faith.
One thing I can say about all the dissenters. It is you that keeps me busy studying and researching. I probably owe some of my return to the LDS church to you all. I don’t have all the answers to every question such as the creation or the flood, but I believe God created the World. I don’t know how long ago or how. I also can’t answer all my questions about the Book of Mormon or Pearl of Great Price with certainty. I do have explanations that our plausible to me and that is good enough. My true understanding comes from living the gospel of Jesus Christ and feeling the peace Jesus promised in my life. I will never stop searching for answers to my questions, but those questions don’t prevent me from enjoying all that my Father has to offers. The children of Israel didn’t need to understand how the bronze snake saved them from the poison. They only needed to have faith and look at it. It represented our Savior and showed that we must look to him to be saved. We today also must know that we must turn to the Savior to be saved. I don’t need to know how the death and ressurection made it possible for me to cleansed of my sins. I only need to believe in the Savior and his atonement. The strong faith I have comes from following the Saviors example and letting the comforter teach me all things and bring all things to my rememberance.