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To: kjam22

>> “Do you think there’s a chance God helped mankind develop insulin?” <<

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Absolutely not!

God gave us his son, Yeshua, and thereby repentance and forgiveness of sin.

Ephesians 4:11 says “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers” but nowhere does he say that he gave us doctors, or drugs.

To the contrary, in Jeremiah 17 he says:

[5] Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

[6] For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

[7] Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.

[8] For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.


59 posted on 04/06/2013 4:32:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I think you need to edit your surveillances a little better. Just sayin’.


61 posted on 04/06/2013 4:34:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you really think Ephesians 4:11 lists EVERYTHING God has given us? Seriously??


62 posted on 04/06/2013 4:35:08 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: editor-surveyor
Absolutely not!

God gave us his son, Yeshua, and thereby repentance and forgiveness of sin.

Ephesians 4:11 says “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers” but nowhere does he say that he gave us doctors, or drugs.

Our dear friend Luke, the doctor, and Demas send greetings.

Cordially,

168 posted on 04/06/2013 7:19:25 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: editor-surveyor
Just MHO but I do think there is a legitimate place for doctors in addition to prayer and the full acceptance of God's faithfulness.
But verse 5. from your quoted text has three parts, all of which are in the conjunctive. That means all three must be present for your conclusion to apply.
I don't think going to the dentist for a broken tooth or taking blood pressure medication or even medication for pain etc. means that the person trusts in man alone.
We live in a fallen world and will die in a fallen world.
Also, I have seen people delivered from demonic affliction and fully recover through spiritual warfare.
On the other hand I have seen people get well after medical treatment because of legitimate chemical imbalances and so forth.
When we get sick we pray for healing, whether it's us (me and wife) or one of the kids. But my 1 year old with Downs Syndrome doesn't have any sin issues to resolve at this point so I don't readily blame him when he gets a cold. We pray for him and often have to use a nebulizer with medication so he can breath.
I don't think that's wrong.
Just my opinion though.
176 posted on 04/06/2013 8:02:56 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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