You wrote:
“I did no interpretations, nor did I quote from Dave Hunt at all.”
So you quoted someone else without attribution? Typical.
“I quoted from Catholic doctrine.”
No, it looks like you quoted James McCarthy: http://www.btwol.com/06_Articles/List_of_articles/Purgatory.htm verbatim!!!
“If you don’t accept it, fine it’s from your tradition.”
No, McCarthy is one of yours, not ours.
“I have no idea what Hunt quoted, like I said I quoted from official Catholic doctrine, with reference.”
Again, you quoted McCarthy VERBATIM.
“I took nothing out of context, and you keep beating up on Hunt, and then me for using his material. I didn’t. I used Catholic material.”
No, you used McCarthy. The quote is EXACTLY the same - VERBATIM. So, he took the original texts out of context and you didn’t know it because you’re never read them.
“I won’t waste my time on the rest of your jibber jabber (thanks Penny) as it would be just spinning wheels.”
Like claiming you quoted Catholic sources when really you just quoted McCarthy. Here again is the link: http://www.btwol.com/06_Articles/List_of_articles/Purgatory.htm
It’s amazing how intellectually dishonest anti-Catholics are.
“I get it you hate Hunt, and seem to like mentioning that he is dead.”
I don’t hate him. I do hate his sinfully dishonest ways. I mentioned he was dead, That’s what the thread IS about isn’t it?
“Nice. The point is that Jesus took our sins on the cross with Him, and He took ALL the punishment for them.”
If that were true as you are casting it then there would be no suffering in this life. Have you ever suffered? Ever gotten sick? Clearly Christ took our ULTIMATE penalty of sin. But if there was no other punishment then you would never get sick, old or die.
“Purgatory denies that, not affirms His sacrifice.”
No. It is the exact opposite. Purgatory can only exist because of His sacrifice.
“Contrary to your beliefs, purgatory can NOT exist precisely BECAUSE of Christ’s sacrifice.”
No, if that were true then no cleansing at all could exist but clearly it does.
“It’s nice to know that Jesus taking our sins settled it once and for all.”
It settled the issue of redemption, but not everyone will be saved. The view you are putting forward logically demands that all men will be saved no matter what they do or believe - even if they deny Christ - and yet at the same time you would strenuously deny that exact point. That is the illogic of Protestantism.
“It seems you will continue to believe in the teachings of the belief system you are committed to, and maybe because of that God will allow you some punishment so you can feel better about what you believe.”
No, what will happen is that I will continue to believe in teh gospel as taught by God, His word and the Church (notice how you ran away from dealing with the verses I posted to you?).
“I doubt it though, He loves you too much to have you endure what he already endured for you.”
I don’t have to endure what He endured. I must only endure what I must. Sometimes that includes enduring the ignorance of fools too.
Here, read it from the horses mouth.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/romancat.html
Just because someone you don't like quotes it, doesn't make it untrue.
Catholics argue like Mormons, denying their own teachings.
If you want, when you die you can go directly into the arms of Jesus.
I don’t have to endure what He endured. I must only endure what I must.
Christians don't have to endure anything at death.
New sins can be INSTANTLY forgiven by going to Jesus in prayer and repentance. If you wish to hold on to sins (endure) until you can confess formally to a man in holy garments, that is your choice.
If you wish to go through purgatory, maybe that is possible if you want it bad enough.
My best to you.
The Protestant anti-Catholics seem incapable of distinguishing between the Sacrifice on the Cross and the application of that grace to our individual souls.
It is not finished or we would be perfect now. I am not, but i do expect to be made worthy to standin God’s Presence. We shall bechanged.
In Isaiah, the prophet has his mouth purified with coals. Do the math.
I did notice you gave references, but did not quote the Scriptures.
I'm not going to do your work for you, if you wish a response to scripture, post the scripture and the chapter and verse, not just one or the other.
I'm sure I can help you out with the Holy Spirit's take on them.