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To: JCBreckenridge; Persevero; BlueDragon; Boogieman
The problem with your opinion is that it presupposes an infalliable bible written by falliable men. You can’t get from falliable to infalliable - but you can get from infalliable to infalliable.

So your argument is that the writers of Holy Writ possessed assuredly infallibility whenever they spoke universally on faith and morals, as per Rome's criteria, and that the supreme magisterium of Rome is speaking as per Divine inspiration on the level of the inspired writers?

223 posted on 04/05/2013 6:01:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Elsie

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


224 posted on 04/05/2013 6:24:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

“at the level of”, no.

The Gospel authors are PART of the MAGISTERIUM already, and so they possess the traits of the Magisterium.


229 posted on 04/05/2013 9:40:00 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: daniel1212

“:So your argument is that the writers of Holy Writ possessed assuredly infallibility whenever they spoke universally on faith and morals, as per Rome’s criteria, and that the supreme magisterium of Rome is speaking as per Divine inspiration on the level of the inspired writers? “

No. I believe that God’s chosen men were used as vessels to speak with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to write God’s actual Word as it appears to us in the Bible.

I believe the Rome’s Magisterium is but fallible men and that they have occasionally veered way out of line when it comes to what the Bible teaches.

Thus I am not a Roman Catholic; because I hold to the Bible as the ultimate guide as to our faith and practice, not to the Magisterium’s teaching as the ultimate guide to our faith and practice. This is, in my opinion, the giant divide between Catholics and Protestants - all other doctrinal divisions flow from it.


232 posted on 04/05/2013 10:15:29 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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