Posted on 03/27/2013 7:40:56 AM PDT by marcbold
Ecumenism is a hot topic right now, particularly dialogue with Islam. But whenever I consider dialogue and ecumenism with Islam I always come back to one question.
What is the point?
By this question, I don't intend sarcastic commentary that any and all dialogue is fruitless. I mean it at face value. To measure the success of any endeavor, you must know what it is we wish to achieve by it.
So what do we hope to achieve with better dialogue with Islam?
First, may I suggest that it is not possible to have fruitful dialogue with Islam itself, but perhaps it is with some Muslims. This may seem like word games, but I think it is an important distinction. I will try to clarify.
Islam, as religion and as a movement does not dialogue, it conquers. If it can use dialogue to lull us to sleep while it conquers, so much the better. Such dialogue with Islam only serves the eventual imposition Islam. Islam, as a religion and as a movement cannot be reasoned with, because reason is not essential to it. Islam does not seek to conquer hearts and minds, it seeks simply to conquer...
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
I'm hoping to pick up some thought threads to dwell on for other seemingly impossible subjects; i.e., Americans and non Americans.
Bravo. Thanks for posting.
Only 38% of British Muslims believe they should kill a Jew when they encounter them.
So, 62% won’t try.
Isn’t that comforting for dialog?
The beliefs of Muhammedanism are based on intrinsicism and mysticism and lead to practices that are cruel, savage, and uncivilized, such as:
1) jihad
2) sharia law
3) barbaric treatment of women
4) fatwas of 1996 and 1998 and the subsequent war against America
These beliefs cause Muhammedanism to be an assault on:
1) reality
2) reason
3) objectivity
4) independent rational judgment
5) the principle of non-initiation of force
6) natural rights
And it is incompatible with:
1) a free society
2) a rational culture
3) life proper to a rational being
It has therefore forfeited:
1) its status as a religion
2) its right to freedom of religion
3) the right of its believers to non-discrimination on the basis of religion
4) the privilege of tolerance
and deserves:
1) condemnation
2) denunciation
3) disapproval
4) intolerance
5) opposition
And it, therefore, should be banned from America, unless and until it's beliefs are reformed in a way that is compatible with reason, reality, and civilized life..
If any further evidence is required
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/03/the_threat_of_islamic_betrayal.html
It’s a report on a Christian church in Turkey that was infiltrated by islamists with the sole intent of murder.
bkmk
soft jihad bump
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