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To: svcw

[[I have given you evidence,]]

You have? I’ve asked repeatedly for evidnece which coudl not occure any other way but supernaturally in violation of atural laws- just liek htey used to do in the bible- As I said- Yes- there is ALWAYS that ‘coudl have happened naturally’ stigma associated with todays ‘miracle healings’ simpyl because there are NO TRUE supernatural miracles that violate the natural law beign doen today liek htey were beign doen repeatedly in the bible both in new testament and old so that noone coudl possibly confuse what they had just personallty witnessed- they didn’t have to rely on someone’s word, they saw these sueprnatural miracles which viollate nmatural laws occure right befgore their eyes- I made the Statement that these TRUE supernatural miracles that violate the natural law are not occurign today- folks chimed in and said essentailly ‘yes they are’ but hten not providign such evidnece- When the centurion’s ear was restored (Soem say the original word was not ear, but head), NOONE in the crowd coudl say “Ya know, that coudl have happened naturally” because there was NO way it coudl have occured naturally- none- Christ performed a TRUE supernatural miracle that violate the natural law when he restored the centurion’s ear/head whatever it was- on the other hand- You MUST cede that MANY people’s cancers do infact spontaniously go into remission- Right? Even paralysis can spontaniously go into remission unless the spinal chord has been severed (although new research is showing promissing results for regenetration of spinal chord with cell therapy- but that is still future)- IF a thing can go into remission spontaniously and naturally even IF doctors can’t explain how (Docs don’t know everything after all) then you must also ceede that a ‘healing’ of soemthign that could spontaniously go into remission is much different than a TRUE supernatural miracles that violate the natural law, right? And I nkow you and I beleive God can and does do very wodnerful things- but can you not see how an unbeleiver could look at soemthign that ‘could’ be a result of a natural process as beign less than the spectacular sueprnatural event/mitracles that were performed in the bible? The whole purpose of the TRUE supernatural miracles that violate the natural law i nthe bible were so that peopel could NOT claim somethign ‘might have happened naturally’ and that ONLY God/Christ/Apostles empowered by God could have performed such true unmistakeable miracles. Christ’s miracles were so Jewishly oriented, and so sueprnaturally miraculous, that NO Jew coudl honestly say “Well, pfff- that ‘could have happened’ naturally I suppose” Christ’s miracles were VERY specific and so entrenched in Jewish tradition and law that ONLY ther Son of God Himself coudl have pulled them off and the Jews knew this- and many beleived when they witnessed the unmistakeable sueprnatural power of the TRUE supernatural miracles that violate the natural law

There’s more to be aksed-written, but let’s just stick with thsoe for now- unless you’re tired of the conversation-


144 posted on 03/29/2013 10:10:52 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
... Christ’s miracles were VERY specific and so entrenched in Jewish tradition and law that ONLY ther Son of God Himself coudl have pulled them off and the Jews knew this- and many beleived when they witnessed the unmistakeable sueprnatural power of the TRUE supernatural miracles that violate the natural law.

AMEN!

Absolutely right!


John 10:38

But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.


John 10:31-33

31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”


(They tried to change the subject as well...)

147 posted on 03/30/2013 3:55:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CottShop

I am very sorry for you.
Your claim is that supernatural miracles are not happening today, when one tells you they are with examples you dismiss them, “as would/could happened anyway”.
Personally, I believe that more supernatural miracles would happen if only people were willing to accepted them.


149 posted on 03/30/2013 7:08:08 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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