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Pope Francis to live in Vatican guesthouse, not papal apartments
cns ^ | March 26, 2013 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 03/26/2013 11:48:33 AM PDT by NYer

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Pope Francis has decided not to move into the papal apartments in the Apostolic Palace, but to live in a suite in the Vatican guesthouse where he has been since the beginning of the conclave that elected him, said Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman.

"He is experimenting with this type of living arrangement, which is simple," but allows him "to live in community with others," both the permanent residents -- priests and bishops who work at the Vatican -- as well as guests coming to the Vatican for meetings and conferences, Father Lombardi said March 26.

The spokesman said Pope Francis has moved out of the room he drew by lot before the conclave and into Suite 201, a room that has slightly more elegant furnishings and a larger living room where he can receive guests.

The Domus Sanctae Marthae, the official name of the guesthouse, was built in 1996 specifically to house cardinals during a conclave.

Celebrating Mass March 26 with the residents and guests, Pope Francis told them he intended to stay, Father Lombardi said. The permanent residents, who had to move out during the conclave, had just returned to their old rooms.

Pope Francis has been there since his election March 13, taking his meals in the common dining room downstairs and celebrating a 7 a.m. Mass with Vatican employees in the main chapel of the residence.

He will be the first pope in 110 years not to live in the papal apartments on the third floor of the Apostolic Palace.

In 1903, St. Pius X became the first pope to live in the apartments overlooking St. Peter's Square. The apartments were completely remodeled by Pope Paul VI in 1964 and have undergone smaller modifications by each pope since, according to "Mondo Vaticano," a Vatican-published mini-encyclopedia about Vatican buildings, offices and tradition.

The large living room or salon of the apartment is located directly above the papal library where official audiences with visiting bishops and heads of state are held.

Pope Francis will continue to use the library for official audiences and to recite the Angelus prayer on Sundays and holy days from the apartment window overlooking St. Peter's Square, Father Lombardi said.

The apartments contain a chapel, an office for the pope and a separate office for his secretaries, the pope's bedroom, a dining room, kitchen and rooms for two secretaries and for the household staff.

When Pope Francis returned to the guesthouse after his election, Father Lombardi had said the move was intended to be short-term while a few small work projects were completed in the papal apartments. He said March 26 that all the work had been completed, but at least for the foreseeable future, Pope Francis would not move in.

The Domus Sanctae Marthae, named after St. Martha, is a five-story building on the edge of Vatican City.

While offering relative comfort, the residence is not a luxury hotel. The building has 105 two-room suites and 26 singles; about half of the rooms are occupied by the permanent residents. Each suite has a sitting room with a desk, three chairs, a cabinet and large closet; a bedroom with dresser, night table and clothes stand; and a private bathroom with a shower.

The rooms all have telephones and access to an international satellite television system.

The building also has a large meeting room and a variety of small sitting rooms. In addition to the dining room and the main chapel, it also has four private chapels, located at the end of hallways on the third and fifth floors of each of the building's two wings.



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; papalapartment; pope; popefrancis; vatican; vaticanguesthouse
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To: betty boop

I appears you have figured this out, or so it appears to this low information non-Catholic. I shall pray for this Pontif to have the wisdom of Solomon and the grace of Nathan.


141 posted on 03/26/2013 9:04:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BlueDragon
Hard to meet the requirement of such threads as this one and disagree!


142 posted on 03/26/2013 9:11:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: tiki
Just finished reading this thread and your observations regarding Pope Benedict laying the groundwork for Pope Francis has been my thought as well. Each pope has his mission from God and considering the house cleaning that was overdue at the Vatican I think that Benedict did his job and made it possible for Francis to do what he has been chosen to do. I admire them both and have read that they are good friends and have worked closely together the last few years.
Another belief I have is that Pope Benedict has chosen to live a mostly monastic life of prayer to help both Pope Francis and the Catholic church. Cloistered prayer is powerful and having a retired Pope pitching in to help the church minister to it's huge population of faithful members is a most welcome and needed thing. Thank God for both Pope Benedict and Pope Francis.
143 posted on 03/26/2013 9:39:49 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which is stands.)
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To: Revolting cat!

144 posted on 03/26/2013 9:50:43 PM PDT by BlueDragon (the beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: mlizzy

Thank you! The chapels that I see people pitting together here are really wonderful! I think I’ll be able to visit 7 churches fairly easily here...I was depressed to find, in another big city a couple of years ago in the US, that I couldn’t even find 7churches that were open for Adoration. Go Malta! But I’m afraid change is coming. I’m glad I got here when I did!


145 posted on 03/26/2013 10:53:53 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

Please remove my distinctly un-humble comment. If you or the moderator have already suppressed it, I thank you.


146 posted on 03/27/2013 1:29:22 AM PDT by DumbestOx ("Where is everybody?" - Enrico Fermi, 1950)
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To: 4Runner

Jesus came to be with sinners. I’m comfortable that Francis isn’t a Marxist. He doesn’t believe that the secular state controls the poor. He knows its his job to minister to them.


147 posted on 03/27/2013 6:28:41 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: married21

I like this Pope

He seem the type that would lunch with common folks in Vatican


148 posted on 03/27/2013 9:32:06 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: trisham

I wonder aloud whether the PR folks are putting this stuff out, or if they are getting told to.

I have seen PR guys who need to make a story about everything. If he is truly this humble, he will put and end to these stories—and you will see a change to the communications department.


149 posted on 03/27/2013 9:39:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: steve86

I’m very sorry if I offended you, dear steve86. Please forgive me.


150 posted on 03/27/2013 5:13:50 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

My problem, not yours. Yours was actually a very insightful comment. Keep ‘em coming, BB.


151 posted on 03/27/2013 5:51:16 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: MHGinTN; Alamo-Girl
It appears you have figured this out, or so it appears to this low information non-Catholic. I shall pray for this Pontif to have the wisdom of Solomon and the grace of Nathan.

Well, dear brother in Christ, I can't exactly say that I am a "high-information Catholic." [At least as the "reformers" in the Church would say. After all, the fact that I have read the great encyclicals of Popes {Blessed} John-Paul II and Benedict XVI; and cherish the writings of the great Saints and Doctors of the Church — e.g., Augustine, Aquinas, and Anselm are particularly dear to my soul. After all, what the Church "reformers" really want (it seems to me) is for the Church to simply "go away." To not exist anymore.

RE: Pope Francis: I haven't "figured" anything out. I'm just following this newly-elected Pope around. So far, I find him amazingly gracious, charming, charismatic.

Jorge Mario Cardinal Bergoglio, Archbishop of Buenes Aires, Argentina — now Pope Francis, 266th pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church — has a very interesting personal history, in which (among other things) he has had to "speak Truth to Power." At personal cost.

I can't wait to see what happens next.... Though I feel confident Pope Francis will take the time he needs, as mediated by the Holy Spirit, to make his message heard in proper time, both within the Church, and in the wider world.

Dear brother, I so agree with you — Francis will need "the wisdom of Solomon and the grace of Nathan" in the conduct of his papacy.

May You, Dear Lord, Bless and protect Pope Francis!

Lord, hear my prayer!

Thank you so much, dear brother in Christ, for writing!

152 posted on 03/27/2013 5:54:04 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: mountainfolk

Amen


153 posted on 03/27/2013 8:50:03 PM PDT by tiki
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To: NYer

The more I hear about this guy, the more I think we’re going to like him.


154 posted on 03/27/2013 8:55:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: betty boop
May You, Dear Lord, Bless and protect Pope Francis!

Amen.

155 posted on 03/28/2013 5:52:59 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: longfellowsmuse
Honestly none of us know what is in the heart of the new Pope..but ponder this. Luxury and opulence not only give an image of excess but they also serve to corrupt. Perhaps he is not only serving as an example but is careful to keep himself humble as well, so he doesn’t become so concerned with the image and the lifestyle that he forgets his apostolic mission.

From what I've seen so far, it also wouldn't surprise me that some of these types of moves are being done -- in part -- intentionally to "shake up" the complacency of the permanent Vatican staff. Basically sending the message that "business as usual" time is over.

156 posted on 03/28/2013 6:01:24 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: txrefugee
This well-publicized poverty bit is beginning to look contrived and ridiculous.

If he moved into the fancy digs, then you could hammer him for being a hypocrite. I see.

157 posted on 03/28/2013 6:12:32 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

oThanks for posting that pic. A thousand words.

The amount of cynicism I have already read on this thread is just sad.


158 posted on 03/28/2013 6:19:49 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: livius
Then I saw all sorts of stupid posts

Which is business as usual all too often. It takes a really interesting subject, like this, for me to even read a thread any more. Only then will I slog through the boring and predictable morass in hopes of finding good posting like yours and a precious few others.

159 posted on 03/28/2013 6:33:13 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Thank you! I read some of these threads to get a general sense of what’s going on, and I will say that I’m really puzzled as to why the haters hate Pope Francis so much.


160 posted on 03/28/2013 2:30:51 PM PDT by livius
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