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To: fr_freak

Actually, the operative principle is that The Pope Is the Liturgy. I.e., whatever the Pope does in the liturgy is correct, by definition.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 3:51:47 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Actually, the operative principle is that The Pope Is the Liturgy. I.e., whatever the Pope does in the liturgy is correct, by definition.

...so, if the Pope celebrates the liturgy using invalid matter (cookie dough), using illicit forms,(makes up his own eucharistic prayer), and has no intention of confecting the matter by the consecrational formula(hey, I’m just doing this for the symbolism of it), then that would be the way for us to go as well...just going by your statement...
...of course, I’m not suggesting that any priest has ever done what I’ve described...just that your statement seems curious...


25 posted on 03/19/2013 4:35:09 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Arthur McGowan; E. Pluribus Unum

Canon law expert and advisor Edward Peters blogs at http://canonlawblog.wordpress.com/ and disagrees in his latest posts with your claim that “whatever the Pope does in the liturgy is correct, by definition.”

You posted before the Pope’s washing of the feet of women and non-Catholics in violation of canon law. Peters goes into the questions this action raises. I believe a Papal visit after the usual liturgical ceremony in a church would have been as effective a gesture of concern. Similarly, in regard to the 2011 Mass of Cardinal Bergoglio, why dilute the worship of Christ by turning the Mass into a spectacle with balloons, banners, puppets, and birds flying off? Why not have the rally before of after the Mass?

Thanks to E. Pluribus Unum for posting this for discussion. Vatican II allowed the liturgy to become politicized. We need to restore the dignity and focus of the Mass as the repetition of Christ’s sacrifice for us.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 10:56:08 AM PDT by ubipetrusest (save the liturgy, save the world)
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