I’m a Momon, and I pay very little attention to the Easter Bunny!
My devotion is to the living Jesus Christ, my Lord and my Savior, the son of the living God the Father. And my goal is to merit and maintain the Holy Ghost in my heart in worship my Father in Heaven. If that’s not enough for you .... so be it, it is enough for my Savior Jesus Christ.
Why would I want to attend another church service and worship a medieval definition of Christ who is ....
....three in one and one in three but never really one but never really three, whos circumference is everywhere, center is nowhere, so large he fills the universe, so small he dwells in hearts and all the while without body, parts or passions..... (need I go on?)
Sorry guys, but the truth and work of our Lord Jesus Christ will continue either with or without your support.
Jesus said it: “I and My Father are one.” (John 10:30) and “No one comes to the Father but through Me.” (John 14:6)
Jesus taught that the Triune God is the true God. True Christians accept His teaching. Knowing that our pitiful, sin-clouded minds cannot fathom the mystery, God gives us the gift of faith to believe it.
WHOAAAA! We need a qualifed FR EMT here... I’ve arrived...
“Im a Momon, and I pay very little attention to the Easter Bunny!”
If you are really a Mormon, I expect you to know the correct spelling.
“My devotion is to the living Jesus Christ, my Lord and my Savior, the son of the living God the Father. And my goal is to merit and maintain the Holy Ghost in my heart in worship my Father in Heaven. If thats not enough for you .... so be it, it is enough for my Savior Jesus Christ.”
1. You left out the created Christ, who atoned by sweating, married, had kids, became a mormonic god... one of a minimum of 4 mormonic earth gods.
2. You have failed at your goal of merit - as has every human who ever lived. This is why we all need the real Biblical Christ who always was God.
3. Holy Spirit - I assume you mean the mormonic Holy Ghost, who was naughty and didn’t get a body???
4. Father in Heaven - I assume you mean the mormonic Father, who was created, used to be a god, has sex in the heavens with Heavenly Mother/s?
“Why would I want to attend another church service and worship a medieval definition of Christ who is ....”
This shows the lack of understanding of Church history, doctrinal history, Biblical teaching and logic. Someone has to say this to you teppe.
“....three in one and one in three but never really one but never really three, whos circumference is everywhere, center is nowhere, so large he fills the universe, so small he dwells in hearts and all the while without body, parts or passions..... (need I go on?)”
That all seems to hard for you to think about. Let me give you one to ponder as a mormon...
How can God be Omnipotent, if there is more than one god?
“Sorry guys, but the truth and work of our Lord Jesus Christ will continue either with or without your support.”
Satan is not easily discouraged. We know this.
(Says a Mormon who adheres to both a supposed B.C. "Jesus" from a Book of Mormon, a "jesus" who slaughtered 70-90,000 people upon his death...see 3 Nephi chapters 8 &9)
Good for you!
You've got your work cut out for you to believe the MORMOn fables!
"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."---Joseph Knight's journal.
"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.
"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.
In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:
"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."
"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)
In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)
Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"("A New Witness for Christ in America,"Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)
"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.
Good luck!!!
But; is it 'enough' for ol' Joe??
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
Sorry, teppe; but I have it on REAL good authority that you are DAMNED!!!
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
Indeed; when you are quite content with a demonic definition!!
“Im a Momon,”
There’s your first problem.
“My devotion is to the living Jesus Christ, my Lord and my Savior, the son of the living God the Father. And my goal is to merit and maintain the Holy Ghost in my heart in worship my Father in Heaven. If thats not enough for you .... so be it, it is enough for my Savior Jesus Christ.”
Good enough for the Mormon Jesus, who is more concerned with his willy as all mormon gods are, but according to the actual Jesus Christ, salvation is purely by the grace of God, impossible to merit. It is God who chooses, and it is God who receives, and it is not of yourself.
Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh_6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Neither is anyone chosen because of any special “goodness” or anything else within themselves before their salvation, for God is no respecter of persons. There is no one righteous, no not one. It is the Holy Spirit which works in a man, so that He confesses Christ, and it is the Holy Spirit who sanctifies and urges a man towards good works and against sin.
Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Tit 3:4-7 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, (5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; (6) Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; (7) That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
1Co_12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
You who are hoping to merit the Holy Spirit do not have the Holy Spirit, but have a spirit that agrees with every world religion which declares that man is the workman of his own salvation. But the elect can never be lost from the hand of God.
“Why would I want to attend another church service and worship a medieval definition of Christ who is ....”
Why would I want to attend a church founded by a false prophet and adulterer who had 30 wives, with 12 of them still married to other men? If I wanted to go to hell, there are many other ways to do it than just Joseph Smith’s religion. It’s cheaper than Scientology, I guess.
Why would anyone listen to a 14 year old boy and a religion that changes with the political winds?
Yes, The Trinity; Three distinct persons is everywhere and yet can dwells in the hearts of those who let Him in. God never changes, even when men try to change Him. He is a passionate God; He loves all His children, even those who hate Him, He is compassionate, forgiving, merciful, loves justice and hates sin and He is so much more.
You say Jesus is your savior, but not GOD. Why do Mormon's “work” to gain heaven if Jesus already died for your sins? Did He died for nothing?
If I don't respond it is because I have to leave. May God bless you with His truth.
Paul described you well:
Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man... (Romans 1:22-23).
The Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Mormon heresy that "God was once man" is just another way of saying the initial lie from the pit of hell expressed by Satan to Adam and Eve: "You shall become as gods." Mormonism is simply a re-packaging of this old Satanic lie. You can be assured of one thing, any "Savior" offered up by this Satanic lie isn't going to be a real savior. You might as well pay attention to the Easter Bunny - he has as much ability to save your soul as the Mormon "Jesus" does - none.
need I go on?
Yes, for your own sake. Go back to God's true Word (not the fraudulent LDS materials) and see how God reveals Himself to man and you'll see that what you hold in contempt is an accurate description of how God reveals Himself. Someday, with the Holy Spirit's help, the lightbulb might go on and you'll realize that Mormonism is requiring you to hold in contempt what God says is true.
Very Greek and Roman empire...
teppe wrote:
Im a Momon, and I pay very little attention to the Easter Bunny!
My devotion is to the living Jesus Christ, my Lord and my Savior, the son of the living God the Father. And my goal is to merit and maintain the Holy Ghost in my heart in worship my Father in Heaven. If thats not enough for you .... so be it, it is enough for my Savior Jesus Christ.
Why would I want to attend another church service and worship a medieval definition of Christ who is ....
....three in one and one in three but never really one but never really three, whos circumference is everywhere, center is nowhere, so large he fills the universe, so small he dwells in hearts and all the while without body, parts or passions..... (need I go on?)
Sorry guys, but the truth and work of our Lord Jesus Christ will continue either with or without your support.