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More Mormons moving from 'Easter disconnect' to Christian worship services [Vanity]
Colofornian | March 13, 2013 | Colofornian

Posted on 03/13/2013 9:45:40 AM PDT by Colofornian

Free Republic can no longer post Salt Lake Tribune based threads...but we can still link to them. Just last week, the Trib ran this very significant article:

Mormons increasingly drawn to Holy Week rituals

In other words, Mormons are attending Christian church services during Holy Week! (And they love the services there!)

To understand this, you have to understand the backdrop -- the vacuum of Jesus and the cross within Mormonism:

1. BYU study: Disconnect between Mormons and Easter

In this article, published by the Mormon church owned Deseret News, it said that Easter has ”only 'lightly more planning than the Fourth of July,'

2. Preparing for Easter through Holy Week

From this article: While the LDS community does not formally observe Holy Week, the period from Palm Sunday to Easter morning… Suddenly I realized that my observance of Easter was rather pale by comparison

For a fresh thread, see: Easter essays ['In the LDS church it never really hit me what Jesus did for me']

(Please also review:)

* What is the Significance of Easter for Mormons?

* Mormons have sub-par Easter services [testimony from a Mormon]

* Why don't Mormon's celebrate Easter? [Asked by a Mormon]

* Lent celebrated locally as Easter nears this month [Lent through eyes of Lds journalist]

Few Mormons wear crosses, depicting their aversion to it. For more on this, see:

* No-Cross Protocol ["New" Mormon tradition]

* Sunstone speaker attempts to explain LDS 'aversion' to cross [published by Mormon church owned Mormon Times]


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: cross; easter; inman; lds; mormonism
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To: MarkBsnr
What did the supposed 'christ' personage say in the grove??




http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven.


141 posted on 03/14/2013 6:50:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven.


142 posted on 03/15/2013 4:21:12 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

You are a hateful bigot!

—MormonDude(I hope your new Pope will straighten you out!)


143 posted on 03/15/2013 5:22:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; MarkBsnr

I for one am thoroughly enjoying Mark’s graphics...leave him alone, MormonDude!


144 posted on 03/15/2013 8:03:12 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: Elsie
You are a hateful bigot!

MormonDude(I hope your new Pope will straighten you out!)

He's a Pope, Jim, not a chiropractor.

145 posted on 03/15/2013 9:28:07 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: greyfoxx39
I for one am thoroughly enjoying Mark’s graphics...leave him alone, MormonDude!

Thank you for the intervention. My feelings on MormonDude are well known, as are my feelings on the company he keeps:


146 posted on 03/15/2013 9:33:10 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Linda Frances

Sorry this is very old, but I appreciate your sincerity.

LDS members believe that Jesus is the Son of God the Father and that he maintained his birthright through obedience to God the Father’s commandments.

LDS people simply believe that if we follow Jesus, we should also follow his example by keeping God the Fathers commandments.

Its like Paul said .... it is by grace we are saved after all we can do.


147 posted on 03/21/2013 8:47:24 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe

“Its like Paul said .... it is by grace we are saved after all we can do.”


That’s not a quote that exists in the New Testament.

Here’s what Paul said on false Gospels that differ from the one he delivered:

Gal 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

No matter how much you repeat it, Christians knowledgeable on Mormon doctrine and the scripture will never accept Mormon claims of being fellow Christians. You waste your time trying to get us to do so.


148 posted on 03/21/2013 11:34:53 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: teppe
LDS people simply believe that if we follow Jesus, we should also follow his example by keeping God the Fathers commandments.

Oh??

It sounds SO easy....


Are there not a few COMMANDMENTS of thge LDS religious organization you HAVE to keep as well??


 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

149 posted on 03/22/2013 4:50:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
LDS people simply believe that if we follow Jesus, we should also follow his example by keeping God the Fathers commandments.

Sounds like Headquarters has failed to teach the lesson of Galatians chapter 3.

150 posted on 03/22/2013 4:55:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

What Jesus Christ Means to Us  (From: http://mormon.org/jesus-christ )

Shirley
 
 
When we accept Jesus Christ’s help we can feel peace in this life and return to Heavenly Father after we die.

God is our Heavenly Father, and like any parent He wants us, His children, to be happy. In the scriptures, He teaches "my work and my glory [is] to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man" (Moses 1:39). Eternal life means to live in heaven, in His presence, with our families, forever. God has given us commandments, which teach us what is right and wrong and chart a way through life that will offer the greatest happiness. Jesus Christ taught, "If ye love me, keep my commandments" (John 14:15). But the scriptures also teach that "no unclean thing can dwell with God" (1 Nephi 10:21). As hard as we try to live good lives, we all sin, so how can we live in God’s perfect kingdom if we are imperfect?

God sent Jesus Christ to earth to give us a way to overcome our sins and imperfections. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16).

151 posted on 03/22/2013 4:58:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

What Joseph Smith Means to Us  (From: various sources )

 
 
 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
 
 
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
 
 
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224


152 posted on 03/22/2013 5:03:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Just how do some folks (MORMONs) view EASTER???

http://mormon.org/searchresults#?query=easter&filter=site

(After going to the site, and reading how EASTER is celebrated; do a search for PALM SUNDAY and see how they observe it...)

153 posted on 03/22/2013 5:07:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
...leave him alone, MormonDude!

MD has his hands full these days; getting ready for the massive Palm Sunday extravaganza in Salt Lake City!

154 posted on 03/22/2013 5:09:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; teppe

Paul - Nephi who cares?

It’s and easy mistake to make!

—MormonDude(http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/25.23?lang=eng)


155 posted on 03/22/2013 5:13:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

#138


156 posted on 03/22/2013 5:14:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

157 posted on 03/22/2013 5:34:55 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
No matter how much you repeat it, Christians knowledgeable on Mormon doctrine and the scripture will never accept Mormon claims of being fellow Christians.

Amen to that!

158 posted on 03/22/2013 7:18:40 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: Utah Binger

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-07-26-dna-lds_x.htm


159 posted on 03/22/2013 8:59:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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