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To: daniel1212; D-fendr
daniel;

I guess I should repost what you added;

What is often missed is that the intercession by the mother here resulted in the death of the supplicant she was interceding for. (1Kg. 2:12-25)

Thus the only example of a Queen mother interceding to the king is a negative one.

Also, Mary now being crowned and reigning with Christ contradicts Scripture which teaches the rewarding and reigning of believers does not happen until the Lord’s return. (Rev. 11:18; 20:6; 22:12; 1Cor. 3: 8-11; 4:5; 2Tim. 4:1,8)

...for it is worth repeating. When we look to the implications, if we were to follow the same approach of comparison as was seeming used to take us from Bathsheba as queen mother...to Mary as Queen of Heaven, doing so opens up other unavoidable comparative symbologies, inevitably leading to inclusion of concepts extremely indelicate, thus unmentionable, beyond simply "death".

By which it can be seen to start off bad and just keep on going...but minus the humor of bugs bunny taking a left turn at Albuquerque.

246 posted on 03/03/2013 1:00:14 PM PST by BlueDragon (If you want vision open your eyes and see you can carry the light with you wherever you go)
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To: BlueDragon
unavoidable comparative symbologies

If you can't avoid them, you'll run into the same problems with king, god-king, etc. etc. etc.

I think sometimes you find what you wish to find in the manner you wish to find it.

:)

249 posted on 03/03/2013 1:12:38 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: BlueDragon

Note also that it is said of Mary that,

When therefore we read in the writings of Saint Bernard, Saint Bernardine, Saint Bonaventure, and others that all in heaven and on earth, even God himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin, they mean that the authority which God was pleased to give her is so great that she seems to have the same power as God.

Her prayers and requests are so powerful with him that he accepts them as commands in the sense that he never resists his dear mother’s prayer because it is always humble and conformed to his will.... St. Louis de Montfort, in Treatise on True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin, #27, 246.

RCs invoke Bathsheba as typifying Mary because the king would refuse no request of hers, yet the only example of her intercession was done in good faith, but has a very negative result , thus one should instead prefer to seek intercession from the only One whom the Holy Spirit says “is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. “ (Hebrews 7:25) And to whom believers come directly to, and there is not need to pray to anyone else in Heaven.


253 posted on 03/03/2013 5:11:33 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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