Posted on 02/28/2013 6:52:42 AM PST by Gamecock
Circumcision has always puzzled me, too. All we are told about it is that circumcision was the outward show of faith that GOd commanded and the Abrahamic Covenant with circumcision as a show of faith was the “sign” that was given by God to Abraham to perform, not only to separate him and his seed from the ungodly world of the Gentiles, but also as a “seal” of the righteousness of faith. (Rom. 4:11). Also, and mainly, as a token of God’s covenant with him. (Gen. 17:11). The covenant being that Abraham’s multiplied seed (later called “the Circumcision”) was to become a blessing to all nations. That’s all I know about it, but it is a very interesting topic, I think.
Scripture interpreted according to whom? We cannot put Scripture in the dock and ask it which interpretation is correct.
As far as what I say, I state my position and appeal to Scripture as the final authority to back it up
And another appeals to Scripture as the final authority for a different view. Now what?
Those who say Jesus is not what you say Jesus is say get it from the same Scripture you do. Read some of the history of heresies; Arius, for example, argued from Scripture.
I am in the body of Christ by faith in Him, not part of any denomination by adherence to any creed.
Except your own creed, which is fine, you can decide what you believe according to Scripture as you see it.
These beliefs are your creed.
That jibes with my understandings, but I agree...very interesting yet sketchy subject.
The Gospel According to You
You are writing a gospel, a chapter each day,
By the deeds that you do, by the words that you say;
Men read what you write, whether faithless or true.
Say – what is the gospel, according to you?
- Paul Gilbert -
The World’s Bible
We are the only Bible the careless world will read,
We are the sinner’s Gospel; we are the scoffer’s creed.
We are the Lord’s last message given in deed and word,
What if the type is crooked? What if the print is blurred?
What if your hands are busy with other work than His?
What if your feet are walking where sin’s allurement is?
What if our tongues are speaking of things His lips would spurn?
How can we hope to help Him and hasten His return?
To hasten our Lord’s return we truly need more power.
So let us all be Spirit filled and awaiting Him each hour.
In an hour that we think not, He said He should appear.
Then let us walk in Holiness and meet Him with a cheer.
Part of a poem by Annie Johnson Flint, born 1866. Read short biography here: http://www.preceptaustin.org/annie_johnson_flint's_biography.htm
I believe the time for being nicey, nicey is over. It’s time to speak in love and truth. It’s going to get brutal after Jesus takes His bride off this earth. Our directive is to point to Christ and His words in scripture. If that offends some it’s not our responsibility to make them feel all fuzzy inside.
Supersessionism causes all types of confusion in understanding scripture. God said His covenant with Israel was “forever”. There are still seven years of His promise to deal with them as a separate people. I think you are correct in that most if not all of the refomation churches are supersessionist. That's just one of the errors brought over from the RCC.
It’s rather easy and obvious really. The Bereans were commended for checking even everything Paul taught against scripture.
Every individual? Do you not understand the promise we have been given as believers?
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
You see. It’s not “every individual” if they are true believers. It’s the Holy Spirit who teaches each individual. There is no higher “authority” than that of the Holy Spirit and He has been given to each of us who are true believers.
I afraid you haven't dealt with the object of discussion. You still have disagreement on the meaning and interpretation of Holy Scripture among those who say they are true believers.
Why should they take your word or your authority over theirs or someone else's?
Sola Scriptura does NOT preclude someone explaining what is being taught. That would be Solo Scriptura. Sola Scriptura simply means that what someone teaches must be verified by scripture or it isn’t to be used.
Not if they are relying on the Holy Spirit to teach and using ALL of scripture.
Different folks 'splain it different ways.
what someone teaches must be verified by scripture or it isn’t to be used.
Verified by whom? A Oneness Pentecostal? A Calvinist? Arminian? Unitarian? Baptist? Anglican? Binny Hinn? :)
They are, according to them, just as you are according to you.
You have equal authority as true believers, yes? Or does each decide the other isn't really a true believer?
What is illustrated is that sola scriptura fails in practice. It does not result in “one Lord, one faith, one baptism.”
What is illustrated is that sola scriptura fails in practice. It does not result in “one Lord, one faith, one baptism.”
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever--the Spirit of Truth. The world cannot accept Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you know Him, for He lives with you and will be in you. John 14:16,17
So you agree with the Church’s interpretation. Welcome aboard!
:)
That’s easy. If one does not use all of scripture while using scripture to interpret scripture with the guidance of the Holy Spirit one will not understand what scripture is saying. The problem enters when someone starts to rely on some “majesterium”, “council”, or other so called “authority” for interpretation. All error can be traced back to either relying on some “authority” outside of scripture or taking only portions of scripture then trying to fit other scripture into an erroneous preconceived idea of what they thought that original portion was saying.
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