Posted on 02/23/2013 1:20:54 PM PST by District13
SALT LAKE CITY — The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced Friday the creation of 58 new missions, including one in Utah.
The announcement came after the LDS church saw a drastic increase in members interested in serving missions following LDS Church President Thomas S. Monson's October announcement that the church would lower the age of mission eligibility to 18 for men and 19 for women.
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What’s the point? You’re only going to come back with a smart-ass response no matter what I say.
No. I am and have tried to be totally sincere. I even searched Google and posted links I thought would be helpful to you - covering issues you brought up.
If you are sincerely seeking God, I will have a conversation together here or by private mail. I hope you take me up on my offer.
That might be true if you actually posted all this evidence you say you have.
So far P you haven’t posted anything, just said you would.
Here is what I have so far. Maybe it’ll be an eye-opener.
The messiah will be fully human and born to human parents. He will also be able to trace his lineage through his human biological father back to King David.
Isaiah 11:1-10
Jeremiah 23:5,30:7-10,33:14-16
Ezekiel 34:23-24,37:21-28
Hosea 3:4-5
Christian theology states that Jesus’ father was G-d. Jesus’ lineage does not go through his human father.
The messiah can trace his lineage only through King Solomon
II Samuel 7:12-17,
I Chronicles 22:9-10
Luke 3:31 states that Jesus was not a descendant of King Solomon but of Solomon’s half-brother Nathan. Jesus was not a descendant of King David through King Solomon.
Tell me what Bible you are using.
The Jewish Bible you said before you use, does not say what you are saying or the books you reference aren’t even in it (unless there is a different name).
What book?
I am trying to look up all the references, with no luck.
Oh YEAH!?
Post YOURS and we’ll ALL get a big laugh, I’ll bet!
—Jack
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And just WHO was HIS dad?
David was Solomon’s father.
Jesus does not qualify as the messiah because he is not from King David’s lineage.
Also,the messiah may not be a descendant of Jehoiakim,Jeconiah or Shealtiel because that royal line is cursed. (I Chronicles 3:15-17 Jeremiah 22:18,30)
According to Matthew and Luke Jesus was a descendant of Shealtiel.
I have already found G-d.
EVERYone has!
And... HE (she?) is working for them just fine!!
for now.
New International Version (NIV)
10 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.
7 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
19 The Jews who heard these words were again divided. 20 Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?”
21 But others said, “These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”
22 Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. 24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
40 Then Jesus went back across the Jordan to the place where John had been baptizing in the early days. There he stayed, 41 and many people came to him. They said, “Though John never performed a sign, all that John said about this man was true.” 42 And in that place many believed in Jesus.
What book are you using to get those references?
What you have posted does not match what you are claiming.
I know one G-d and that is the G-d of the Hebrew Scriptures.
I would imagine your Bible is different from mine.
Are you going by the KJV?
I have access to KJV and about 20 others.
I can accept that.
But; did Jesus do any miracles?
Ok, I give up, you are posting “versus” that do not say what you are claiming they say and when you are asked to let people know what book you are using, you apparently do not wish to say.
In some posts you say you are using a Jewish Bible but those versus do not match either....
I am done.
So do what you need to do, be Noahite, they are not Jewish, quoting from books from unknown sources.....have an interesting life, maybe one day you will find the One and True God Almighty.
Well,sometimes the verses are not matched up. I go by the JPS,not the KJV or any other version of the Christian bible.
As I have stated,Jews and Noahides share the Hebrew Scriptures.
G-d made it very clear as to who He was and what He was not. He is unchanging. He is not a man. He is not a mortal.
Jesus did not fill any of the messianic qualifications. He has not brought peace on earth. Quite the opposite actually. The Temple has not been rebuilt. People are still committing idolatry. The Jews are still scattered all over. Not all Jews follow the Torah. When the messiah comes there will be complete observance by ALL Jews.
I have been to various Jewish sites that back up the Scriptures and I have been using the JPS.
You keep saying that but provide zero evidence to back up your claim.
Jesus is the King of Kings.
Jesus is the Prince of Peace
Jesus was not an earthly King or the arbitrator of earthy peace
I am truly sorry your spirit is so sadden, when the answer is there.
I have access to the JPS, so I will look.
If your references are the same as you have already portrayed.........
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