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To: MeOnTheBeach
You can't have salvation without works.

That is patently false. If you have to work for Salvation, you can never be assured. There is no way to work hard enough or long enough to earn the Gift of Grace.

Grace is a gift. Gifts are not earned.

24 posted on 02/22/2013 7:43:05 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw
"That is patently false.

This is patently what the Lord Jesus Christ said Himself. If you don't want to accept it, that's your choice. Good luck with that at the judgement.

If you have to work for Salvation, you can never be assured.

I have faith in Jesus Christ, that's all the assurance that I need. Your statement reminds me of something straight out of the Screwtape letters; don't try because you can't succeed.

"There is no way to work hard enough or long enough to earn the Gift of Grace."

Do you honestly think the rules get changed because you think it's too hard??

"Grace is a gift. Gifts are not earned."

If doing evil works will condemn you, good works have to save you; through the judgement and grace of Jesus Christ. He will judge us based on our works and give grace accordingly.

1 John 2:29
29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

Colossians 3:25
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

John 3:21
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

1 John 3:7
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

John 9:31
31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Matthew 7:21
21 ¶Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

John 9:4
4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

James 2:22
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

These are just a small handful of scriptures out of literally 100's that show the importance of works in regards to salvation. It's the 2nd most important and prominent teaching in the whole New Testament.

And here's a biggie:
Revelation 20:13
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

To say works have no part in salvation is bizarre when works is the very criteria Christ uses to grant salvation.
29 posted on 02/22/2013 8:46:15 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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