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To: svcw

No need to guess.

YOU SAID: doing every thing they can to make the Mormon Women feel inferior to other people

I SAID: Finally, you understand some of momronism’s teachings.


The Mormon haters try to make it look like the Mormon Women are inferior, so what does that have to do with Mormon teaching? what point are you trying to make?


72 posted on 02/16/2013 12:12:34 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf
The Mormon haters try to make it look like the Mormon Women are inferior, so what does that have to do with Mormon teaching?

BINGO!

84 posted on 02/16/2013 12:30:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ravenwolf

Again, you use the phrase “mormon haters” and have yet to provide one example of this illusive hate.


86 posted on 02/16/2013 12:35:57 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: ravenwolf; svcw
The Mormon haters try to make it look like the Mormon Women are inferior, so what does that have to do with Mormon teaching? what point are you trying to make?

(1) A temple Mormon wife can't make it to live with Heavenly Father forever unless her husband calls her forth from beyond the veil with a special name given to her from the temple ritual.

(2) A people who embraced the Book of Mormon also embraced a Book of Mormon culture.

Here...I'll introduce you to the Book of Mormon culture via a quick play of:

Book of Mormon Jeopardy on Women

Time to hit the Jeopardy category of “Women in the Book of Mormon.” (For those who don't know "Jeopardy," the answer comes first)
Answer: 2%
Question: What % of the 250 or so characters in the Book of Mormon are female?

Answer: Once
Question: How many times are “sisters” even referenced in the Book of Mormon? [The only reference I've found is 2 Nephi 5:6 – and even then
these sisters of Nephi are unnumbered & unnamed]

Answer: Sarai
Question: Who's the only wife mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?

Answer: Abish
Question: Who's the only daughter mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?

Answer: Don't Exist
Question: Who are the sisters mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?

Now that we know the BoM marginalizes women, how can we tell if it trivializes women, too?

(a) Leading off the lineup of Mormon women, we have the unnamed daughter of Jared (Ether 8:8-12). What goes through her brain? Why she wants to dance before a man so that she'll seduce him into marrying him; then this household can properly commit patricide. Nice.

(b) There's an unnamed Lamanite queen in Alma 47:35. She's easy to defraud.

(c) There's another unnamed Lamanite queen in Alma 22:19-24. Let's see. This queen sees Aaron & servants @ foot of a dead king's bed. She jumps to wrongful conclusions. Then in all her decisiveness, she's going to massacre them for guilt-by-association. Then she started to back down from her heavy-handed executive authority. Why? Not because of justice, but because of fear – her servants were fearful. So she was, too (v. 21). Aaron, seeing that this woman was no match for kingdom authority, elected, instead to do the “easy thing.” And what was the easy thing in comparison to trying to deal with this queen? Why, he raised the king back from the dead (vv. 22-23).

(d) And since the book of Alma in the Book of Mormon seems to carry the predominant mention of women on behalf of the entire book, how do the earlier chapters introduce such women?
Here, read it yourself:
“And now, may the peace of God rest upon you, and upon your houses and lands, and upon your flocks and herds, and
[“and” = covering things you haven't yet covered...so what you seen the next line applies to what follows -- not what was preceding]
and all that you POSSESS, your women and your children,
according to your faith and good works,
from this time forth AND FOREVER
And thus I have spoken. Amen. (Alma 7:27)

(Well, last time I looked, forever meant forever)

Other than that, when women are mentioned in the Book of Mormon, they are good for toiling, spinning, working (Mosiah 10:5; Hel. 6:13) and having kids (1 Nephi 17:1), which the prestigious clans of the Book of Mormon were good at having by gobs of millions...supposedly.

And even when we get to the grandest of stories about women yanked out of the Bible, even Joseph can't get it quite exact. He references an unnamed virgin in 1 Nephi 11:18 -- who Smith identified as "the mother of God."

By comparison, women in the Bible were judges (Deborah), prophetesses (Anna, 4 daughters of Philip), heroines (Esther), etc.

98 posted on 02/16/2013 3:09:48 PM PST by Colofornian
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