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Why Mormonism will Surrender to Homosexuality
Renew America ^ | Feb. 13, 2013 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 02/13/2013 4:44:23 AM PST by spirited irish

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To: MHGinTN

Yeah but it will inform the lurkers and edify the FI...

:)


141 posted on 02/13/2013 8:11:07 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Hoodat

“What a coincidence. That’s the same thing Torquemada said.”

So? What’s your point? If one person uses the Bible to wrongly justify something, then nobody can justify anything based on the Bible?


142 posted on 02/13/2013 8:11:48 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hoodat
"Actually, it was Jesus' idea. You obviously don't recognize scriptural authority when you see it."

Sorry, but you're wrong. I used to see the "not judge" thing from liberals and non-believers in chat rooms and on forums. I'm not saying you're either, but you don't understand the Scripture any more than they do.

Jesus never forbade judging. He taught us how TO judge. If you look at Matthew 7 1:5, He is instructing us not to judge if we are doing the same thing we are judging. In the last sentence, He tells us to make sure we are not guilty of that, and THEN to make our judgement.

In Matthew 7:15, Jesus tells us to beware of false prophets (like Joseph Smith). How are we supposed to tell what's false and what's true unless we make a judgement?

John 7:24 says: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” Judge based on the truth---on Scripture. You might not want to judge, but you have no right to tell me or anyone else not to do so. When you do, you are contradicting what the Bible tells me, and when it comes down to you or it, which do you think I'm going to pick?

1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 says, "“Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.” You are saying we should not test all things.

1 John 4:1 tells us to test the spirits. Again, a judgement must be made.

143 posted on 02/13/2013 8:20:03 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: wolfman23601

Wolfman, I’m not Catholic, but I consider us brother and sister in Christ. Maybe one day when we meet in Heaven we’ll laugh about our differences.


144 posted on 02/13/2013 8:22:17 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Correct, CA


145 posted on 02/13/2013 8:25:15 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Hoodat

Why are you afraid, someone will challenge you?

Maybe defend what you beleive if anything, does that cause you angst?

Come on hoodat, run from your fear....take the challenge, post threads in the religion forum exposing Christianity.


146 posted on 02/13/2013 8:44:25 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Thanks, svcw


147 posted on 02/13/2013 8:51:35 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Hoodat

Truth about Mormonism is bashing? Check out the bible on false prophets.


148 posted on 02/13/2013 8:52:01 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: svcw
It's not in my heart to engage in some ongoing crusade on this forum against one particular religion or sect whether it be Mormons, or Catholics, or Southern Baptists, or Samaritans, or Jews, or Muslims, or . . .
The underlying premise of attack could be used against any of the above (in fact it was used against the Samaritans back in Jesus' day). It is noticeable how differently Jesus reacted to it compared to those eager to voice their displeasure with Mormonism again and again and again every time one of these 'Mormon' threads pop up.

Incidentally, the main premise of the opening article was not even addressed until the end. It's is worth noting that the Mormon Church was included in the process of writing legislation for Utah. I wish other churches were consulted in the same way for drafting legislation in their own states. But I think it is a stretch to conclude that the Mormon Church will surrender to homosexuality this early in the process. Perhaps the heretic police here should be targeting those denominations who have already surrendered.

149 posted on 02/13/2013 10:07:34 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: AppyPappy

That’s pretty weird. Do you happen to have a link for that?


150 posted on 02/13/2013 10:10:34 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat

http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon385.htm


151 posted on 02/13/2013 10:14:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Hoodat
"These name-titles all signify that our Lord is the only Son of the Father in the flesh. Each of the words is to be understood literally. Only means only; Begotten means begotten; and Son means son. Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 546-547).
152 posted on 02/13/2013 10:32:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Hoodat
Christians do, having been given that authority by God

I gotcher authority!

Right HERE!!




153 posted on 02/13/2013 10:34:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: T. P. Pole
But we all have seen threads turn to "bashing" on the mere mention of Utah in the article, even if the subject is Arches National Park and has nothing to do with mormons beyond vacinity.

No; "we" haven't.

SOMEthing in the replies triggered a response.

154 posted on 02/13/2013 10:36:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hoodat
You have elected yourself arbiter of this matter.

And the SB's are extremely glad they aren't in the crosshairs!

155 posted on 02/13/2013 10:38:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hoodat
You allow some religions to get a free pass when it comes to obeying scripture, writing it off as "doctrinal differences".

PLEASE!

Level the playing field by posting about those getting a free pass.

It is FREE Republic after all.

156 posted on 02/13/2013 10:39:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wolfman23601
Could that be a metaphore or simply a story to teach a greater lesson?

Thank you for calling Ask Jesus: Press 1 for English.


Matthew 24:37-38

“But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

“For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,”


157 posted on 02/13/2013 10:42:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hoodat
I was simply pointing out the double-standard.

Then you are worthless.

To 'point out' and then fail to try to correct?

What good is THAT?

158 posted on 02/13/2013 10:43:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wolfman23601; svcw; Colofornian; Elsie; SENTINEL
I am talking about the authority of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, which has been against polygamy in doctrine since the 19th century. Yes, there are offshoots that still practice it and are consistent with the teachings in their book, but those offshoots are considered heretical by the mother church.

Then why is Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants STILL officially included in the "holy scriptures" of the mormon church? Heresy?

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159 posted on 02/13/2013 10:47:00 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: wolfman23601
I am talking about the authority of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, which has been against polygamy in doctrine since the 19th century.

It HAS?

I daresay one canNOT find anything official from SLC headquarters to this effect.

It is STILL 'scripture'

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.


 

58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.

The spineless weasels that run MORMONism, Inc. (in SLC) have CHOSEN to be a state rather than OBEY what their GOD told then to do.

160 posted on 02/13/2013 10:49:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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