Posted on 02/10/2013 4:45:41 PM PST by ReformationFan
I was at the grocery store the other day when I was unexpectedly confronted with an adult-oriented magazine located right next to the vitamin section. I immediately had to look away from the front cover, which featured a scantily clad, seductively posed, sex symbol. Yet it was only a few weeks ago that I read an article about how this same sex symbol loves to speak in tongues and has to restrain herself from outbursts in tongues while attending church services. What?
This is actually a perfect illustration of American charismatic Christianity, where you can say you love Jesus (like the rapper “The Game” claims to do) and still frequent strip clubs (as “The Game” still does), or where you can flow in the gifts of the Spirit and become a made-for-TV preaching sensation, only to announce that God told you that you married the wrong woman, leading to a quick divorce and remarriage.
Yes, this is the “gospel” of the 21st century, “Spirit-filled” church of America, where the cross is bypassed, denial of the flesh is scorned, purity is called legalism, and anything goes if it feels good.
It is the “gospel” of self, in which Jesus dies to make you into a bigger and better you, a “gospel” in which God is here to serve you and help you fulfill your dreams, and where the measure of all things is not how God feels about it but how you feel about it (or how it makes you feel).
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You wrote:
“JESUS PAID FOR LAST CALL AT A WEEK LONG PARTY WHERE EVERYONE DRANK ALCOHOL Do you realize how foolish you look?”
I don’t look foolish at all - except maybe to people who are foolish themselves and aren’t bright enough to know it.
1Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Cor 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
You must show me where alcoholic wine was used in the Bible, where it is allowed in the Bible, why the Bible says it is okay, in order to prove you have a valid Biblical standpoint.
It cant be done.
Thes 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all [men].
1Thes 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any [man]; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all [men].
1Thes 5:16 Rejoice evermore.
1Thes 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1Thes 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
1Thes 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
1Thes 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
1Thes 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Thes 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
1Thes 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
No. I don’t have to show you anything. Anti-alcohol polemics simply don’t work, don’t make sense, and fail to show that Jesus did not drink alcohol.
It’s obvious you don’t believe the Bible, that is plain.
So, The Bible already won.
I suggest you repent of this wickedness.
You wrote:
“It’s obvious you don’t believe the Bible, that is plain.”
I do believe the Bible. I jus tdon’t believe your interpretation of it.
“So, The Bible already won.”
Christ won. And He drank wine.
“I suggest you repent of this wickedness.”
On this issue I have none to repent. You do. You’re bearing false witness.
Quoting the Bible is not interpreting it
There are almost 100 berses condeming alcohol when it is drunk to get high
NONE that condemn drinking non-alcoholic fresh grape juice-wine, but ALWAYS when it refers to wine that has fermented
it is you who are against what the Bible teaches, and you who haven’t quoted a single verse that says drinking alcoholic wine as good
Sorr to say it so plainly, I know it sounds cruel and tactless, but you just can’t be more wrong.
Nope. The Bible is not against alcohol even if was against alcohol in some cases or some people or in excessive amounts. Jesus drank wine. The Apostles drank wine. Early Christians drank wine. Those are just the facts.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
prove it
post any verse that says alcoholic wine is a good thing in the Bible
you wrote:
“prove it”
I don’t have to. The burden is yours and your failing terribly.
“post any verse that says alcoholic wine is a good thing in the Bible”
The Bible condemns abuse of alcohol, not its very existence.
That’s the point, I already proved it and did so using the Bible
you need to repent of this wickedness and start attending a Bible beliving Church
You wrote:
“That’s the point, I already proved it and did so using the Bible”
No, you did not.
“you need to repent of this wickedness and start attending a Bible beliving Church”
I already attend a Bible believing Church and on this issue I have nothing to repent of.
Same. The fact that Christianity has become not much more than a social club for many, has a direct impact on the state of affairs in this country. I am always glad when I see this pointed out.
Well, your own words condemn you
No, actually they don’t.
well, yes, because anyone can scroll back up and see I quoted scripoture several times in my responses...did you?
Like I said, your own words condemn you
You wrote:
“well, yes, because anyone can scroll back up and see I quoted scripoture several times in my responses”
That doesn’t mean you interpreted the verses correctly.
“...did you?”
No. Do I have to? No. Christ drank wine. It was alcoholic wine.
“Like I said, your own words condemn you”
No, actually they don’t.
I didn’t interpret anything, that’s the point
One you keep missing, andf also fail by failing to cite Scripture that defends drinking alcoholic wine and alcohol in general as a good thing
Since you haven’t done that yet, maybe it is time you back up your opinion, for so far, it is only based on your accusation, and not on any evidence.
Meaning, your own words condemn you. You need to repent of this wickedness.
You wrote:
“I didn’t interpret anything, that’s the point”
Actually you did - even the choice of verses is a matter of interpretation.
“One you keep missing, andf also fail by failing to cite Scripture that defends drinking alcoholic wine and alcohol in general as a good thing”
Is that supposed to be a sentence?
“Since you haven’t done that yet, maybe it is time you back up your opinion, for so far, it is only based on your accusation, and not on any evidence.”
No, the evidence is obvious.
“Meaning, your own words condemn you. You need to repent of this wickedness.”
On this issue I have nothing to repent of.
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