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To: damonw

I went to one of her ‘meetings’ with my daughter and son-in-law. She was quite good. Then during a break, her husband Dave spoke. Not with the same talent as Joyce, be we got the sense that they were both rock solid conservatives.

They’ve been around for awhile, as seeing by who lasts in that industry, good and ill.

And I didn’t really see anyone there who looked like a good advocate for witchcraft...at least in the Gardnerian sense. Rather it seemed like there were quite a few unescorted, attractive females, moved by the word, who were hoping to find a husband there. And to the extent that succeeds, it aids a wounded America. And I’m confident that her accounting ends in spreading her Good News message worldwide are in GAAP order too.


29 posted on 02/06/2013 11:39:53 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Hi Doug, LOL @ attractive single woman looking for husbands, since so many would claim her conferences and ministry is aimed at woman, and they are billed that way. How many men are supposed to be at woman conferences? :-)

I have never said that Meyers or her followers look like witches or advocate for witchcraft. Witches don’t have big crooked noses with moles and ride brooms,, doncha know. But I do claim the WoF power of words or confessionism teaching (you possess what you confess) is witchcraft veiled in Christian terms. And it is not just me that comes to this conclusion but many apologetics ministries that cover the WoF. I have met well over 100 ex-Wofers and I make a point of asking them all if they think they were practicing witchcraft when applying that WoF doctrine. Most say off the bat that yes they believe they were and all other after some conversation said yes they were practicing witchcraft. And for all of them to admit they were tricked into and were actually practicing witchcraft is a powerful thing

I have written and done a video on the topic. I quote from Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and Paul Crouch where they admit WoF doctrine is witchcraft or new age visualization. I’ll post my articles below and then others who have come to the same conclusion.

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/05/12/the-word-of-faith-is-not-the-gospel/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/04/18/the-power-of-the-spoken-word-%e2%80%93-biblical-or-occult-law-part-1/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/04/18/the-power-of-the-spoken-word-%e2%80%93-biblical-or-occult-law-part-2/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/07/12/abracadabra-presto-and-shazaam-your-healed-of-your-word-of-faith-delusion-because-i-say-so-by-damon-whitsell-2/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/02/20/danger-signs-in-the-word-of-faith-movement-witches-unaware-word-of-faith-movement-is-simply-witchcraft-disguised-in-christian-terms/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/06/24/jesuss-instructions-for-our-prayers/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2012/09/29/5100/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/05/16/new-age-word-of-faith/

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2008/10/14/voodoo/

The last three come from ex-word of faithers. Another thing I like to ask ex-word of faithers is what was the source of them getting deceived. And they tell me is was their pride,, and that they wanted to have to power to control their lifes and circumstances. So when they heard the WoF message that they could create their futures with the words they speak, they took the bait and was hooked.

I think besides souls being lost to hell one of the worse things about the WoF is that many WoFers will not have a clue that they were really witches unaware and practicing witchcraft, but once that is exposed to them by Christ on judgement day,, they will never forget and that they were so motivated by their own desires and need to control things that they were fooled into practicing witchcraft will torment for eternity.

Benny Hinn claims the Holy Spirit told him, “…that if witches and occultists can speak death by the supernatural power of words, then Christian can speak life and prosperity by the same power.” The Facts on the Faith Movement, J. Ankerberg & J. Weldon, Harvest House, 1993, p.23 Copyright ©2008
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Benny Hinn: “Witches even..I mean..I’m not here to talk about witches but, but I’ll tell you this.“

Paul Crouch: “They..they under they know the secret.“

Benny Hinn: “,,,because see I had a witch tell me this. And I said what!? She said, listen to me, she said do you know that we are taught in witchcraft how to kill birds with words, and how to kill people with our mouth. I said what do you mean kill people? She said we are taught with words to bring disease on men. I said how? She said by speaking certain words (unintelligible) she said we can actually cause sickness that could very well kill.” Christianity in Crisis (audiobook), tape II, side 3.
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COPELAND: Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and that’s when the action takes place because that is when the spiritual force is brought up out of the mouth – whether it be fear or whether it be faith – and when that spiritual force comes out, it is going to give substance to that image that is inside of you. People say, ‘that is that New Age visualization stuff’. The New Age is trying to do this. And they get somewhat results out of it because it is a spiritual law. (Believer’s Voice of Victory (television program), TBN, 28 March 1991.)


30 posted on 02/07/2013 12:43:41 AM PST by damonw
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To: onedoug

HI again doug, a google search with the keywords, word of faith witchcraft, comes up with many more articles coming to the same conclusion.

https://www.google.com/#q=word+of+faith+witchcraft&hl=en&tbo=d&ei=wWgTUcbyB6Hg2gXAmIDoDA&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42080656,d.b2I&fp=2aea2a4f42cfe712&biw=1787&bih=820

I realize getting people who are Wof and who are practicing witchcraft will not be easily convinced of it because when I tell non-Wofers they have a hard time believing it. So I think I will write again on the topic today, or soon, and will post an open thread post on the subject and see how many of my ex-wof friends I can get to chime in. If you’d be interesting in reading that post, please go to our blog and subscribe. I been real busy and am fixing to have to move in a few days so while i hope to get to it soon, it might be awhile. I’ll also post it here on FR.


31 posted on 02/07/2013 12:57:45 AM PST by damonw
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