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To: vladimir998

The Alexandrian church from which the Copts evolved was one of the earliest founded, not long after Christ’s ascension. Your ‘history’ is laughable as the ‘heretical’ split you talked about happened in 451, so how could they have started in the 5th and 6th centuries when they were already attending the councils centuries before that.

And the Latins have no authority to judge anyone as heretical either. This has been the problem in Christianity for centuries once the Muslims finished conquering the Christian lands of Africa and the Middle East, is that the Roman church has always claimed supremacy simply because they were now the largest church.

Nobody bought it, and nobody ever will. All it serves is to stir up dissension among the Body, but the Latins won’t leave it alone.


21 posted on 01/20/2013 7:49:48 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

You wrote:

“The Alexandrian church from which the Copts evolved was one of the earliest founded, not long after Christ’s ascension.”

Evolved?

“Your ‘history’ is laughable as the ‘heretical’ split you talked about happened in 451, so how could they have started in the 5th and 6th centuries when they were already attending the councils centuries before that.”

The Coptic Church has been a distinct body - having chosen heresy and schism - since 451 when it refused to recognize Chalcedon. Before that time Coptic Chirstians were merely part of the Catholic Church. After that time, they were their own Church and in heresy and schism. Now, they have essentially abandoned the heresy, and they make no claim to the schism. Thus, the way to reunion is open as was admitted by Coptic leaders in the 1950s already.

“And the Latins have no authority to judge anyone as heretical either.”

The Catholic Church does. And it has.

“This has been the problem in Christianity for centuries once the Muslims finished conquering the Christian lands of Africa and the Middle East, is that the Roman church has always claimed supremacy simply because they were now the largest church.”

False. The Roman Church has led the Church since long before Islam arose.

“Nobody bought it, and nobody ever will.”

Actually everyone who was anyone of consequence acknowledged the primacy of the Roman Church for quite some time. This still happens sometimes today even among those who were taught not to believe in it. There’s even the noted episode where an Assyrian bishop researched the need for papal primacy in 2005 and later brought 3,000 of his parishioners into the Catholic Church with him in 2008: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/california_chaldeans_receive_3000_assyrian_christians_into_catholic_communion/

“All it serves is to stir up dissension among the Body, but the Latins won’t leave it alone.”

The TRUTH always divides those who seek it from those who don’t know it and don’t care for it. Study and pray more and you might learn the truth on this matter.


22 posted on 01/20/2013 9:45:55 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Free Vulcan

If I may comment on something here, 451 is actually in the 5th Century, and therefore cannot also be “centuries before that” as you have stated.


23 posted on 01/20/2013 10:45:33 AM PST by cothrige
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