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To: betty boop; metmom; Alamo-Girl; marron; HarleyD; stfassisi; CynicalBear; xzins
Thank you for your post bb and plugging for another FR's book. I couldn't remember if you were the co-author with AG but I thought your were.

I would suggest a careful study of your point below:

That is the heart of the problem. This is the Pelagius error. "Us" giving and turning our lives to God. We are unable to open our eyes and ears to spiritual things. What I believe you meant to state is that God opens everyone's ears and eyes and then we make a choice to let Him in. This is the Catholics view of salvation. But then there are issues with that.
604 posted on 02/01/2013 2:10:01 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; betty boop; metmom; Alamo-Girl; marron; stfassisi; CynicalBear; xzins; P-Marlowe

Just to follow up for stf, the reason the Catholic position is incorrect is due to the definition of “free will”. According to the dictionary, it says that “free will” is free from any influence including divine will. That means God could not open up eyes and ears nor have any causal relationship to the act of salvation. Which is exactly why the Council of Orange branded it heresy and Augustine burned his books. This subtle distinction was lost on the Council of Trent. They really should have listened to the Protestants of the time.


605 posted on 02/01/2013 2:23:43 AM PST by HarleyD
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