Posted on 01/16/2013 7:39:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Scientology was designed to be a scam from the beginning. L. Ron Hubbard himself said so.
RE: L. Ron Hubbard himself said so.
Interesting. Did he simply say it or did he actually write it down somewhere?
I think it is written down. It is well known that he would have liked to establish a totally bogus “religion” by which to bilk the members. Just do a little Internet reading and you will find that I am right. Scientology is based on those writings.
“It is widely believed that the creation of Scientology was the result of a bar bet between L. Ron Hubbard and Robert A. Heinlein.
The story says L. Ron Hubbard dared that he could create a religion all by himself.
According to Scientology critic Lindsay this is “definitely not true”, no such bet was ever made, it would have been “uncharacteristic of Heinlein” to make such a bet, and “there’s no supporting evidence”.
However, several of Heinlein’s autobiographical pieces, as well as biographical pieces written by his wife, claim repeatedly that the bet did indeed occur.”
I’ve heard Harlan Ellison, who was also part of the bet mention it many times in interviews.
Everybody else sobered up and didn’t bother with the bet but Hubbard actually did it.
They have to got to be the most gullible, stupid people on earth.
Scientology was designed to separate fools from their money.
It has been an unbridled success story!
The owners of the franchise are not practicing members. ‘nuf said.
For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world....
what does Mrs Miscavige have ot say about all this?
Oh wait.
Has anyone seen her recently?
Anyone care?
Harlen Ellison could have come up with something even MORE Sinister (and probably more INTERESTING! :^)), but LRH did a pretty good job deceiving bunches of people.
Ellison is one of my favorite writers.
I might have joined...LOL
Why is there a cross in Scientology imagery?
There is a retired fellow in Pinehurst named Wayne Greene who was a friend of Ron Hubbard. Wayne is pretty famous for starting “BYTE” magazine about the time the IBM PC was announced.
Here is his wikipage:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Green
Every once and a while, Wayne is interviewed by a local radio station about the early days of personal computers. Wayne always steers the discussion to Scientology and talks about the origins.
He tells the bet story, but with a twist. LRH was really P.O.ed at the medical and psychiatric community for classifying him as a nut on several occasions. LRH claimed to be just a sci-fy writer. LRH was practicing his Dianetics for a fee and was in trouble for practicing medicine without a license. He was facing indictment and jail time when he made the bet. However, Wayne said the bet was really a two-part bet:
Part One was that Wayne could beat the rap by claiming he was a religious leader and practicing a religion.
Part Two was that he could document the new religion in writing to show the medical board and the courts.
JRH won both parts of the bet by making up the Scientology religion and avoiding charges.
JRH hated psychiatrists and that is one of the major themes of Scientology. It also served to underscore the legal distinction of practicing medicine or religion. By dissing psychiatrists, he was establishing that he was doing anything but practicing medicine.
Wayne is pretty old now (91) and I hope there are recordings somewhere of his interviews.
Snap! Snap! Snap!
And, of course the consensus is that the best Classic Trek of all time, City on the Edge of forever, was written by him.
Do you think “I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM” could be made into a religion?
LOL!
RE: Why is there a cross in Scientology imagery?
See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_of_Scientology
This symbol is mainly used to specifically denote the Church of Scientology, and may or may not represent the practice of Scientology in general. The cross’s eight points represent the eight dynamics in Scientology.
Also here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_cross
The Scientology cross is one of the principal symbols of Scientology. It is most often used to represent the Church of Scientology.
The cross closely resembles the Christian cross, but differs from it with the addition of four diagonal rays between the conventional horizontal and vertical arms. The eight points of the cross represent the eight dynamics in Scientology:
The Self
Creativity, sex, and procreation (family)
Group, society, community
Species survival (humankind)
Life forms in general
Matter
Spirit
Infinity or Supreme being
The Church of Scientology says that “the horizontal bar represents the material universe, and the vertical bar represents the spirit. Thus, the spirit is seen to be rising triumphantly, ultimately transcending the turmoil of the physical universe to achieve salvation.”
“Do you think “I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM” could be made into a religion?”
The Sons of Elli.
Have you ever read Jack Vance’s ‘the ‘Brains of Earth’/’Nopalgarth’? I think it was published in the early mid 60’s although it could have been published earlier in astounding or something, it reads like a poke at Scientology. He also has a cult in the ‘araminta station’ series that is pretty scientology in vibe.
from a synopsis of the ‘Brains of Earth’ I found:
“In this the Xaxan race has solicited the help of scientist Paul Burke. They have spent centuries ridding their race of the Nopal. The Nopal are invisible brains that parasitically attach themselves to their victim and control their actions. The freeing of a Xaxan from the Nopal takes them from the Chitume (Possessed) status to the Tauptu (Purged) status.
Unfortunately the separation requires an electrical regimen similar to torture and is only good for 30 days before the Nopal tries to reattach itself. The Xaxan have purged all Nopal from their planet and are now bringing their fight to the home planet of the Nopal, Earth. All Earthmen possess a Nopal. When they purge Paul he is able to see the Nopal and finds his attitudes are changing.”
Freegards
I have not read “The Brains of Earth”, but if it pre-dates “Dianetics” then I think we have a case of plagiarism!
My dear late husband was the BIG sci/fi fan. He once wrote a personal letter to Joe Halderman and got a very nice personal letter back! :-)
(for those who don’t follow sci/fi, Joe Halderman was not the same as the Halderman in the Nixon Administration...different guy.) LOLOL.
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