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“It contains some form of it. Men taking God’s Word and making it more acceptable to themselves. Can you give one example of God commanding these men to make these translations?”

It contains ALL of the Gospel of Christ. People make translations into their languages. Most people don’t speak Hebrew. No one speaks Koine Greek anymore. God commanded that we take the Gospel to all the world. Part of that is giving them the Bible in their own language. Not a thing wrong with that.

“This is overly dismissive, to say the least. Controversy? And what is this evil that you speak of? In this context I can only conclude that you are referring to the differences in doctrine as being “evil”.”

No, you misunderstand me. I am simply saying you are looking to the Bible to ask why people don’t agree. People don’t agree on what color car to buy. People don’t agree on what the Constitution means. I posit the problem with people. They can misunderstand, misuse or distort for another agenda, anything. That said, the Gospel of Christ is their in black and white.

“Its a well documented fact that only recently has the differing factions of modern Christianity stopped killing each other over their various beliefs. That’s a bit more than just a controversy.”

Oh yea, every day, Christians kill each other... not.

But this seems to be a distraction. Again, you are focusing on people and not on the issue you raised about the Gospel. Distraction for you?

“Unless the seeker finds something different than yourself, right?”

No.

“The Dead Sea Scrolls are not a complete comparison of which ever Bible you want to use.”

No problem. They show the unchanging Bible. Not 100%, but certainly factual evidence that anyone objective would recognize. I take it you are not objective on this issue.

“Are you making the claim that everything in the Bible is not scripture from the mouth of God? That if contains spurious writings that are not from God?”

No. I’m claiming that all Scripture is God-breathed and not all is about the Gospel we are discussing. Really, if you read the Bible, you wouldn’t have to ask questions that are basic.

“Then why keep it? Why not remove what’s not necessary? Why confuse people? You admit that it’s not all for you.”

We keep it because it is the whole story from start to finish of God working in history. We don’t arbitrarily throw it out. We revere it all, using our minds to understand and rightly divide it.

Now, as to you. Are you a regular atheist, or just a cultist?


78 posted on 01/10/2013 11:00:16 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Are you a regular atheist, or just a cultist?

Probably just an Enlightened Person who took a Comparitive Religion class in college once.

84 posted on 01/10/2013 12:12:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It contains ALL of the Gospel of Christ.

Would you not agree that this is speculation on your part? You don't know if it does or if it doesn't. Since the Bible isn't in chronological order nor is it a linear story you can't be sure it contains everything that you should know or do.

You can't show me in any writing where God said to make a subset of all the writings. I mean, there are many references to other prophets and other writings in the Bible that aren't contained in the Bible. If it was important enough for God, in scripture to reference these writings, how do you know that you are not missing something important?

Not a thing wrong with that.

Unless the one doing the translating has a doctrinal bias.

I am simply saying you are looking to the Bible to ask why people don’t agree. People don’t agree on what color car to buy. People don’t agree on what the Constitution means. I posit the problem with people.
That said, the Gospel of Christ is their in black and white.

This is clearly a contradiction and several logical fallacies. People don't agree on colors because of personal taste not because of reading comprehension skills. On the other hand you argue that the Gospel is black and white and people can not see it simply because they are disagreeable.

The more reasonable answer is that the Gospel of Christ is not in black and white.

Oh yea, every day, Christians kill each other... not.

Since you seemed to have missed this part, let me restate it: Its a well documented fact that only recently has the differing factions of modern Christianity stopped killing each other

But this seems to be a distraction. Again, you are focusing on people and not on the issue you raised about the Gospel. Distraction for you?

You cannot separate the Gospel from people. The Gospel was made for the people and they are inseparable. The supreme litmus test for any gospel taught by man is the effect it has on the people. The servant reflects the master. I can look at the behavior of any group and see the true God they follow.

No problem. They show the unchanging Bible.

Only 40% of the DSS's reference the Hebrew Bible. I do not believe the Hebrew Bible references the New Testament. Nor does this justify the latest translations. Hardly shows an unchanging Bible, quite the contrary.

No. I’m claiming that all Scripture is God-breathed and not all is about the Gospel we are discussing. Really, if you read the Bible, you wouldn’t have to ask questions that are basic.

Is the whole Bible scripture or is it not?

Just read the Bible...really? And what if my conclusion about the Gospel is different than yours?

The Pope had the king of Spain launch the Spanish Armada to recapture England for the Catholic Church. Are you saying that if the Pope would have just read the Bible he would understood the basics, as you do, that are right there in black and white and would have thought better of it and all those Catholics would have been spared?... Interesting.
86 posted on 01/10/2013 1:06:17 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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