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To: steve86

How does a dead mortal human do that?

It’s blasphemous.

BTW, nice to see that you learned from the homosexuals and others to claim victimhood if someone does accept your ideas as gospel fact, “Mariaphobic”... lol. That is not a defense of your idea.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 1:38:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
You seem to be replying to the wrong thread or the wrong FReeper (noticed that on both threads).

When I pick up my RX I am going to down it with Holy Water just to get a reaction out of the Prottie pharmacist (not really).

14 posted on 01/01/2013 1:48:38 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: GeronL
The idea that the dead are just dead is not Scriptural.

At the Transfiguration, Our Lord was conversing with Moses and Elijah. Were they "dead mortal humans" while conversing with Christ?

And Christ himself said the Father is not the God of the dead, but of the living, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Are they "dead mortal humans"?

16 posted on 01/01/2013 1:52:44 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: GeronL

Probably because Jesus Christ is alive in each Christian through the spirit we receive from our Baptism.

Through the Holy Spirit anyone can intercede on a persons behalf. When we pray in the spirit, Christ within intercedes on our behalf. Read these passages carefully Jas 5:13-15; Eph 6:18; Rom 6:26-30.

If Christ is alive within us, what we pray for is done through Jesus through the Holy Spirit. How much more is Christ alive in a person than in the saints in heaven? How much more is Christ interceding than in the bonfire created by the Holy Spirit among many?


18 posted on 01/01/2013 1:56:30 PM PST by Bayard
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To: GeronL

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen


24 posted on 01/01/2013 2:14:50 PM PST by narses
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To: GeronL

I agree with you that bodies die.

But the soul does not. Depending on one’s life, the soul goes to heaven, hell or purgatory. It is very much alive.

The souls in heaven and in purgatory (In purgatory, they know they will eventually get to heaven after the harm done on earth has been atoned for.) can and DO pray for us if we ask them to.

Obviously the souls in hell cannot pray for us.

Remember the story of the rich man and the beggar, Lazaruse? The rich man asked to go back and warn his brothers about what was in store for them since he saw Lazarus the beggar in heaven. His soul was totally alive.


42 posted on 01/01/2013 5:31:11 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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