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Cain's New Civilization...Genesis 4 pt 9
http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/cains-new-civilization-genesis-4-pt-9/ ^ | 12-23-12 | Bill Randles

Posted on 12/22/2012 6:17:26 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

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1 posted on 12/22/2012 6:17:33 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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While the possibility of Vulcan being a derivative of Tubal-Cain is interesting, I’d have to see evidence that, in the original languages, this could be so.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 6:30:59 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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I don’t have any evidence at hand, that not being my burden for this article.but passed along that little bit that I had heard. I should have said,”It is believed by some” but thought that “it is believed...” already inferred by some.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 6:47:02 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles
The Greek god of fire and smithing was Hephaestus.

Vulcan was his Roman counterpart.

4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:54:28 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Jonty30
The etymologists believe they can identify a super group of languages to which both the Semitic and the Indo-European tongues belong.

Remember, the oldest Bible stories predate the existence of the people who put those stories into the Bible ~ and most have undergone some transformation by being translated from one language to another many different times.

Some of them are like Ma-Nu ~ part of a nearly world wide literary tradition. Then there's The Great Fish image ~

Since we know we don't have a really good compendium of all human literature back to the beginning of the big melt down of the great glaciers about 20,000 years ago, nor do we have a really good fix on the words they used, it is as reasonable to think Tubal Cain has a common origin with Vulcan, as to not think that.

5 posted on 12/22/2012 6:55:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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But a disturbing picture emerges from the sparse snapshot of family life as it came to develop among the Cainites. In the case of Lamech, the seventh from Adam, we see that the primal law of marriage to one woman had already been cast aside as irrelevant , Lamech was a polygamist.

So, marrying one sister was ok but two, or more was not?

6 posted on 12/22/2012 7:03:17 PM PST by fso301
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Thanks Bratch-


7 posted on 12/22/2012 7:17:27 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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Genesis 11
The Tower of Babel

11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward,[a] they found a plain in Shinar[b] and settled there.

3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

English has already become the "common" language of the planet. Knowledge has been increased 100 fold over the last century and half. We are now out of the "Roman Age". Take a man from 1880 and put him into 200 AD and he would be able to adapt quite easily, same with a man from 200 AD put into 1880 AD. Take both of those men and place them into 2012 AD and they would have a very difficult time.
8 posted on 12/22/2012 7:31:19 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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I agree but can’t see what you are sayng to me brother.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 7:34:02 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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Just part of Gods plan/predictions for the end times. God gave us the intellect to create. He knew that we could eventually do anything once we sinfully found the knowledge. But everything we will/have created would exclude him. Just goes back to the message that this world is a temporary existence. No matter what we do or create it’s all foolishness to God because it leaves out him and our eternal partnership with him.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:41:50 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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It goes back to my childhood in the Church. Our preacher got on the bandwagon over the moon landings that were popular talk back in the early 70’s. He thought it was great for our country and so on, but he asked us to imagine the advancements we could have made with Gods guidance, that is if Adam and Eve and not sinned. His view was that “ mans dominance over the Earth” which God had given Adam and Eve included the physical Universe. Instead of the Moon we might have been populating the stars by now.


11 posted on 12/22/2012 7:49:31 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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I gotcha, thanks for the insight.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 7:52:25 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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"So, marrying one sister was ok but two, or more was not?"

That is correct. Monogamy was to be practiced. As far as marrying ones sister, that was a given being as to how the race had not progressed to the point of cousins and distant cousins. The bloodline was still pure enough to allow for it without the genetic defects in todays times.

13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:59:35 PM PST by BipolarBob (I survived the Lindsay Lohan Bar, Grill and Fight Club.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

No problem.

I was a mythology nerd in high school. I’ve forgotten most of it; however, it always intrigued me that the ugliest god (Hephaestus/Vulcan) wound up marrying the most beautiful one (Aphrodite/Venus).


14 posted on 12/22/2012 9:03:16 PM PST by Bratch
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While all of this is very interesting I personally feel it is a huge reach. The solution that God gave all mankind to be relieved of the curse, death, if you will was His gift of sending His eternally perfect Son into the world to be punished for our sins. To be resurrected and share eternal life with us if we simply follow Him and obey His commandments.

The solution is still available to all who will partake of it.


15 posted on 12/22/2012 9:07:36 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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I love and hate the book of Genesis at the same time. For every verse I have at least 10 questions that will never be answered.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 9:53:27 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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Well said, JAKraig. Also “Have not our increases in technology, advances in the arts, and in agriculture and defense caused us also to forget that this world is cursed and that thus it is not our permanent home?”, that’s true as well, pastor, however, we were created in the image of the almighty, the CREATOR, we cannot help but create ourselves, given whom we’ve descended from. We reflect His image, His awesome creativity but a spark in us but nonetheless a spark. But we do tend to forget this isn’t our permanent home, I’ll give you that.


17 posted on 12/23/2012 12:29:21 AM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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Noah showed himself to be a master of all the Cainite “evil” technologies” by building a boat(using God’s plan), harnessing animal husbandry, he could plant vineyards and farms ect....

The world’s first Great Godly Polymath.... whom God used to to preserve humanity!

Joseph was another one!


18 posted on 12/23/2012 2:54:18 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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No one said technology itself was”evil” , rather it is a function of man’s God given dominion over the earth!


19 posted on 12/23/2012 6:50:20 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: JAKraig

That is true, its what I have been saying all along, (that the solution is Jesus), In what way is this all a “huge reach”?


20 posted on 12/23/2012 6:54:07 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
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