Posted on 12/22/2012 6:02:55 PM PST by Phinneous
...An article on the pagan origins of Christmas...
Sheldon: Oh, yes. We had a tree, we had a manger, we had an inflatable Santa Claus with plastic reindeer on the front lawn. And to make things even more jolly, there were so many blinking lights on the house they induced neighbourhood-wide seizures.
Penny: So I take it you don’t want to help us trim the tree.
Sheldon: I do not. But if you insist on decorating a spider-infested fire hazard in my home I would request that you add this.
Penny: What is it?
Sheldon: You’re kidding, right? It’s a bust of Sir Isaac Newton.
Penny: Oh, sure, sure, yeah. Very Christmassy.
Sheldon: Wait, excuse me, but it’s much more Christmassy than anything you’ve put on the tree.
Leonard: Here we go.
Sheldon: December 25, 1642, Julian calendar, Sir Isaac Newton is born. Jesus, on the other hand, was actually born in the summer. His birthday was moved to coincide with a traditional pagan holiday that celebrated the winter solstice with lit fires and slaughtered goats. Which, frankly, sounds like more fun than 12 hours of church with my mother followed by a fruitcake.
No, you are completely wrong for two reasons.
First, the pagan catholic lies were generally accepted in all of Europe, and that pagan bias is prevalent in both the KJV and the Geneva.
Second, is that there was no process at that time to resolve the biblical years into our pagan calendar. The biblical calendar was a complete mystery at that time, partly due to the contrivance of Talmudic Jews in recreating the biblical calendar around the era of the renaissance.
We know that the fall fiests were the prophecies of Christ’s commings, and both were written, from Moses time, to be in the fall. All of the colateral information given in the gospels also only fits the fall, including the ‘wise men’ following Daniel’s revelation to their ancestors in Babylon regarding the constellation Betula.
One has to disregard all the obvious things that are known to swallow the DEcember 25 lie.
>> “ Are we really supposed to be at each others’ throats as this article would have us be?” <<
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If we are to worship him in SPIRIT, and in TRUTH, then yes, that has to be, for most will follow the wide gate unto destruction, and only the few, the remnant, will find the narrow gate.
Do you want to try to tell that pagan lie to the Lord at the Great White Throne judgement?
There is no Biblical basis for anything “Easter.”
When the Lord arose, he didn’t need for the stone to be removed, for he was then in his perfect, immortal body, and was seen walking through stone walls after his resurrection.
-— There is no Biblical basis for anything “Easter.” -—
Or Sola Scriptura, not that anyone seems to care.
Is that why Christ almost always preceeded his teaching with “it is written...?”
Hollywood only has 10-gay-writers for all of TV.
I’ve heard that version 100 times this year alone.
Yawn.
Was He referring to the New Testament, which did not yet exist? Or is the Old Testament to be our guide?
Notice that He doesn't command us to settle intra-Christian disputes via Scripture.
"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector."
“...contrivance.... blah blah...”
Jews are quite certain of the calendar from the first day of creation until today, the 10th day of the 4th month in the 5773rd day since creation, actually. Contrive other reasons if you can’t resolve your calendar.
>> “Jews are quite certain of the calendar from the first day of creation until today” <<
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Absolutely false!
There is over 200 years of injected error in the current Jewish calendar. That can be proven by simply comparing historically recorded astronomical events with the present configuration. Perhaps you think computers are unreliable, but I seldom (never) catch mine screwing up.
We Jews are certain... you can twist all you want. There are Jews alive today with family trees to King David. Our tradition is a bit more extensive than yours.
Only the masorite OT scriptures are completely reliable today. All that is derived from Greek texts has to be viewed as somewhat questionable.
As more and more Hebrew gospel ms are being discovered, the deliberate corruptions of the Greek gospels are becoming evident.
Christ disavowed all oral ‘tradition’ (takanot).
Would you like to meet som very Jewish astronomers that are equally adamant that the calendar is in error?
Sure. Link away.
Really? then why do the gospels refer to the angels rolling away the stone?I think the Lord Jesus has a wonderful sense of humour and would enjoy my little tale.You need to lighten up.
*** That puts Christmas in late March or early April.***
Actually, if you begin when the father of John the Baptist started his course in the Temple and count you will find that Jesus was most likely born around Sept.
So why have a celebration in Dec? For the same reason we don’t have National Holidays like President’s Day on the actual days but on the weekends.
If you don’t know the real day you can arbitrarily choose a day like Dec 25. I can live with that.
***All the fake pagan ‘gods’ were born December 25.***
And they were killed in July. They represented the birth of the sun(shortest day of the year) and the death of the sun (Longest day of the year, weeping for Tammuz).
***And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee***
The mention of the sixth month was a reference to ELISABETH’s pregnancy.
Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
“In spirit, and in Truth”
He has rejected all lies. All lies are from the Father of Lies, Satan.
"So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter." --St. Paul
And again, where is Sola Scriptura in Scripture?
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