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To: RitaOK
"Oh please. Not another big-me-little-you anti-Catholic thread. The Church is surrounded by wolves because she IS the Church."

"There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church—which is, of course, quite a different thing."

"These millions can hardly be blamed for hating Catholics because Catholics “adore statues;” because they “put the Blessed Mother on the same level with God;” because they “say indulgence is a permission to commit sin;” because the Pope “is a Fascist;” because the Church “is the defender of Capitalism.” If the Church taught or believed any one of these things, it should be hated, but the fact is that the Church does not believe nor teach any one of them. It follows then that the hatred of the millions is directed against error and not against truth. As a matter of fact, if we Catholics believed all of the untruths and lies which were said against the Church, we probably would hate the Church a thousand times more than they do."

"If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hates."

"My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world, as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church which is accused of being behind the times, as Our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because he called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which amid the confusion of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly, it is other-worldly. Since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. ... the Catholic Church is the only Church existing today which goes back to the time of Christ. History is so very clear on this point, it is curious how many miss its obviousness." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen

These anti-Catholic threads are posted for the benefit of the posters.Most are driven to continually assuage their guilt over leaving the Church. Although they deny it, it is a wound that does not heal so the posts continue unabated. In truth they do nothing but drive Catholics closer to their Church. All we can do is pray for them and ignore the insults.

Peace be with you

21 posted on 12/17/2012 2:09:58 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law; RitaOK
>>"These millions can hardly be blamed for hating Catholics because Catholics “adore statues;”<<

Do they light candles and incense in front of statues? Do they face a statue and ask for blessings? Do they put statues in front of their homes, on their car dash for protection?

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

2Kings 18:4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

>>because they “put the Blessed Mother on the same level with God;”<<

Let’s take the prayer of Prayer of Pope Pius XII. [http://catholicism.about.com/od/tothevirginmary/qt/Honor_Immacula.htm]

I’ll use just the bolded excerpts from the prayer.

we cast ourselves into your arms

1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (When did we need to replace God with Mary?)

confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.

Hebrews 4:15-16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (once again Catholics replacing Christ with Mary)

O crystal fountain of faith

Romans 12:3 according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. or "a measure of faith." (but Mary is the “fountain of faith” for Catholics)

Lily of all holiness

1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. (for Catholics however, “all holiness” is given to Mary)

Conqueress of evil and death

Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. (but Catholics claim it was Mary who conquered death)

Convert the wicked

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; (Catholics have even replaced the Holy Spirit with Mary)

31 posted on 12/17/2012 2:59:42 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law
...I would look for the Church which the world hates."


46 posted on 12/17/2012 3:52:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law

Peace be with you, NL, and may Mary strike his heel, soon, and Christ Jesus be with us, availed to us ever in the Holy Eucharist, body, blood, soul and divinity.

This is one of the worst attacks I’ve seen on FR, and in the Holy Season approaching the coming of our Lord, astonishing.

Where was it I read of “silly women”? The devil is alive and increasing.

Blessed be the holy and undivided Trinity, now and forever more. Blessed be the Holy Mother of God, the holy saints and angels.

Blessed be Saint Michael, Saint Gabriel, Saint Raphael.


65 posted on 12/17/2012 5:54:47 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Natural Law
"If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hates."

Well you got the wrong one then...Most of the American Catholics ARE part of the World since they voted in our current President, twice...And it appears that most of the World's Catholics are as liberal as can be...

Most of the American Supreme Court are Catholics; someone likes to nominate Catholics for judges...

The Queen of England is leaning Catholic...

Most of Central and South America is Catholic...The Catholic religion is one of the largest in existance, as long as it continues to count the former members...

I'd say the Catholic religion is one of the most popular among governments, and the secular World...

129 posted on 12/18/2012 7:21:04 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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