The Unwritten Order of Things- Boyd K. Packer-Mormon

BYU Devotional Address ^ | October, 1996 | Boyd K Packer

[greyfoxx39]

This particular comment is very telling of the mormon mindset...."When the family insists that several family members speak in a funeral, we hear about the deceased instead of about the Atonement, the Resurrection, and the comforting promises revealed in the scriptures. Now it’s all right to have a family member speak at a funeral, but if they do, their remarks should be in keeping with the spirit of the meeting."

In my own experience, instead of the Atonement, the Resurrection, and the comforting promises revealed in the scriptures" being spoken of at mormon funerals, the topics spoken of were Joseph Smith, the church, the temple, baptism of the dead and "eternal life". The funeral sermon was used as a proselytizing tool with in many cases, disparaging remarks about those who may be in the audience who were non-mormon and calls for them to "repent and reach exaltation".

In several cases, instead of an event to honor and remember the dead, some listeners walked out steaming at the insulting tenor of the messages while others were in agreement with the messages.

[greyfoxx39]

Ping

[svcw]

Yep.
Reading this is like reading a prison work book: you will do what we tell you - period (oh and it doesn't matter that it's not written down anywhere - just do it)
After all we are the be all and end all - do it or pay the consequences, and we wont tell you what those are but you'll know when it happens.

[ruesrose]

I attended an LDS Sunday service with a mormon relative who had come to visit.
It was a business meeting and there was no sermon to speak of, just church business. No worship at all. Perhaps they get that in a different service. I don’t know. But I do know I did not feel the presence of the Holy Spirt which I have felt in my own church and in some other churches and often in denominations other than my own. A Christian is well aware of the presence of the Holy Spirt in a church that is based on scripture.

[SENTINEL]

"There are many things I could say about such matters as wearing Sunday best. Do you know what “Sunday best” means? It used to be the case. Now we see ever more informal, even slouchy, clothing in our meetings, even in sacrament meeting, that leads to informal and slouchy conduct.

It bothers me to see on a sacrament meeting program that Liz and Bill and Dave will participate. Ought it not be Elizabeth and William and David? It bothers me more to be asked to sustain Buck or Butch or Chuck to the high council. I just say, Can’t we have the full names on that important record? There is a formality, a dignity, that we are losing—and it is at great cost. There is something to what Paul said about doing things “decently and in order"

What a phariseeical crock of crap !

[svcw]

When I was living with my mormon family, I went to ward with them for nearly a year (until I couldn’t take it any longer), there never was worship as Christians understand it.
There was their version of communion, which made me sick to my stomach.
You are correct, there is no feeling of the Holy Spirit as Christians know it, even God Almighty is not there.

[Colofornian]

From the article: There are many things I could say about such matters as wearing Sunday best. Do you know what “Sunday best” means? It used to be the case. Now we see ever more informal, even slouchy, clothing in our meetings, even in sacrament meeting, that leads to informal and slouchy conduct.

Translation: "Slouchily" dressed folks are NOT welcome at any Mormon worship.

You HAVE to be "worthily" before the Lds gen authorities will even begin to weigh you as "potential gods."

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Wow, my experience at Mormon funerals has not even been close to that.

“When the family insists that several family members speak in a funeral, we hear about the deceased instead of about the Atonement, the Resurrection, and the comforting promises revealed in the scriptures. Now it’s all right to have a family member speak at a funeral, but if they do, their remarks should be in keeping with the spirit of the meeting.”

That is close to what a Catholic funeral is. It’s a Mass.

[Elsie]

The things that I shall tell you are not explained in the scriptures...

This is just about ALL of MORMONism; especially the things modelled after Masonic rituals that take place in the 'temple'.

Good luck at finding THOSE things 'in the scriptures'!

[Elsie]

I've heard somewhere that MORMONs really like to quote from James....

 

 

 

James 2:1-11

 

1 My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. 2 Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in filthy old clothes also comes in. 3 If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
 
5 Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6 But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who are blaspheming the noble name of him to whom you belong?
 
8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. 9 But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.

[Elsie]

You are correct, there is no feeling of the Holy Spirit as Christians know it, even God Almighty is not there.

I'm sure that two of our MORMON friends have something to say about this....

[Elsie]

I went to four funerals last month, and they were all professing Christians of various denominations and congregations.

Some had glowing eulogies, others not quite so much.

Some had been a Christian for a VERY long time; others not so long.

But in EVERY one of the funerals; the GOSPEL was presented - by different preachers.One service even had an altar call - reaching out those in the assembled mourners who may have not had chosen Christ yet.

Sadness; yes - but even more HOPE for the future and eternity.

[Utah Binger]

Mormon Ward Newton CT

Wonder if there will be any funerals here this week.

[svcw]

If there are you better be dressed correctly or we will talk about you behind your back.

[Utah Binger]

Levis’s and a black Pringle of Scotland sweater.

Tomorrow night same thing at the Tabernacle SLC with TBM relatives for Christmas music.

I know..........

[Elsie]

I sure hope not!

 

But they will, no doubt, have their hands full with proxy baptisms...

 

No; wait...

 

That'll take place here:

 

         Manhattan New York

 

 

 

or here...

 

   Boston

 

Or they COULD just wait until...

 

THIS one is finished...

 

[Elsie]

In 2008, there were 47 abortion providers in Connecticut.

In 2008, 17,030 women obtained abortions in Connecticut; or about 46 a day; every day, in 2008.

That’s one death a day per ‘provider’; but Obama neer shed a single tear for them...

[Utah Binger]

That Manhattan edifice has a nifty little bar right across the street not even fifty yards away.

[Utah Binger]

Sadly one little girl was from my home town.

We are here in Ogden tonight for Wifes family dinner.

Doubt it will be too festive as the parents are pals with all of our nieces and nephews up here.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865568848/Former-Ogden-family-loses-daughter-in-school-shooting.html

[Ripliancum]

The Juliard School of Music and the Lincoln Center for the performing arts is just across the street from that Manhattan edifice. I’m not sure where the bar is you are talking about.