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To: Salvation
My post to you:
...what you wrote: "Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant. Using typology, when the Ark of the Old Covenant was touched — the person died."

Therefore if that is true, anyone touching Mary would die. The use of typology seems quite a stretch unless there is a scripture in the NT saying that Mary is the latter day Ark of the Covenant.

I've never seen anything like that.

Mary and Joseph were married, as noted in scripture.

20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife...
There was no qualification (don't have sex with her or you will die), the angel said take her as your wife.

24 Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, 25 and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son.[d] And he called His name Jesus.
"...and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son"

That is the same as saying that he DID "know" (Biblical lingo for having sex) her after Jesus was born.

Seems pretty cut and dried.

Joseph had sexual relations with his wife, and he did not die.

I know that Catholicism and the church fathers and many others outside of Catholicism spent centuries trying to make Mary a perpetual virgin, but scripture doesn't uphold that theory.

Your reply (except for the one brief strawman reply):

Did you read the WHOLE article? Especially the sections about “brothers”?????

Please read it here.

I am quite familiar with the controversy of cousins vs brothers, and it is pretty much settled. Most of what is covered in the article I have researched in depth for many years.

Mary had other children after God blessed her marriage to Joseph and they did what God wants every married couple to do, procreate.

The scriptures I have posted to you are the Biblical answer.

No one, not even centuries of Catholic leaders should try to misread them, or discount them, or re-translate them.

Like putting in a "her" in place of Jesus.

Which reminds me, my question asking if there is a special translation of the Bible for Christians?

I remember seeing Bibles in the past (I used to deal in Bibles quite a bit) that said in the front pages something like "approved for Catholics". I never took the time to compare it word for word to the Christian Bible.

Oh, and here is the Bible in the KJV:

Please read it here:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

170 posted on 12/13/2012 11:31:51 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Syncro

**Joseph had sexual relations with his wife, and he did not die.**

I totally disagree. Joseph and Mary agreed to live in mutual respect and celibacy.

They had no additional children. The brothers spoken of, could, of course, be from a previous marriage of Joseph where his wife had died. Thus they would be the step brothers of Jesus.

Also the word for cousin — not used that much in the Bible because of language difference — is translated as brothers.

Even Paul used brothers and sisters in his letters.


171 posted on 12/13/2012 5:43:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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