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To: Mrs. Don-o
That is why it must be a misstatement to say Mary didn't have a choice. It makes God out to be something like Zeus, a rapist; or Allah, a despot served by androids.

Those who believed God knew for Centuries before Mary was born that Mary was going to agree, say yes...There is no way she could have said no since that would have made God a liar...

123 posted on 12/10/2012 4:54:52 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
"There is no way she could have said no since that would have made God a liar..."

God is not some magnified creature than anyone is going to surprise with an answer, God IS. Even though we have freewill, an omniscient God knows before the beginning of time what we will do.

Peace be with you.

125 posted on 12/10/2012 5:05:01 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Iscool
Yes, God absolutely knows all things past, present, future, and at once, because He is the master of time and space. The Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. Mary was prepared for: her bringing forth a Son to defeat the Serpent Satan was prophesied as far back as Genesis: "I will put enmity between you and he woman, between your seed and her seed."

However God's knowing, and God's making to happen, are two different things. God willed free will, it exists in every human, it is real, it involves our choice, in fact "choice" is commanded by God ("Choose ye!"), the choice is ours, and God's will is done by it. If we didn't have a choice, then all God said about "choose ye" is a lie.

126 posted on 12/10/2012 5:13:52 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Eat the bread with joy and drink the wine with a merry heart." - Ecclesiastes 9)
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