To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
So what does it do when it finds out about them? When a priest is found out he is laicized: removed from active service of any kind. He has the ability to say a Mass privately, as he remains a priest.
St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah
That is a lengthy thread; what exactly, is there to support your accusation that there was "rampant" abuse in the Catohlic Chuuch "for a thousand years"?
Every evil of the world was started with the Protestant Revolution, eh?
Sexual morality was significantly relaxed by the so-called reformation. I mentioned Luther fornicating with nuns, but generally the Protestant Reformation brought about, gradually, liberalization of divorce and remarriage, use of contraception, and today, some Protestant denominations endorse abortion.
93 posted on
12/09/2012 11:15:53 AM PST by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: annalex; metmom
Sexual morality was significantly relaxed by the so-called reformation. I mentioned Luther fornicating with nuns For someone complaining persistently about unjust "lies" and "truth", I think it is noticeable that the truth about Luther is omitted in order to tarnish him as the source of all sin in the world - hardly true and laughable! Luther did not "fornicate with nuns", he married a former nun when he also left the clergy because he did not believe that clerical celibacy was Scriptural. He did not advocate for "free sex" nor adultery, nor child murder. Perhaps some statements could be taken more seriously if the ridiculous rhetoric was given up?
Biographer WHT Dau notes of Luther:
Moral cleanness is indelibly stamped upon hundreds of pages of Luther's writings. The Sixth Commandment in its wider application to the mutual relation of the sexes and the sexual condition of the individual was to Luther the solemn voice of God by which the holy and wise Creator guards and protects the fountains whence springs human life. "Because there is among us," he says, "such a shameful mixture and the very dregs of all kinds of vice and lewdness, this commandment is also directed against all manner of impurity, whatever it may be called; and not only is the external act forbidden, but every kind of cause, incitement, and means, so that the heart, the lips, and the whole body may be chaste and afford no opportunity, help, or persuasion for impurity. And not only this, but that we may also defend, protect, and rescue wherever there is danger and need; and give help and counsel, so as to maintain our neighbor's honor. For wherever you allow such a thing when you could prevent it, or connive at it as if it did not concern you, you are as truly guilty as the one perpetrating the deed. Thus it is required, in short, that every one both live chastely himself and help his neighbor do the same." (Large Catechism, p. 419.) The reason why God in the Sixth Commandment refers to only one form of sexual impurity Luther states correctly thus: "He expressly mentions adultery, because among the Jews it was a command and appointment that every one must be married. Therefore also the young were early married, so that the state of celibacy was held in small esteem, neither were public prostitution and lewdness tolerated as now. Therefore adultery was the most common form of unchastity among them. [Luther Examined and Reexamined: A Review of Catholic Criticism and a Plea for Reevaluation (St Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1917), 95].
134 posted on
12/09/2012 4:37:01 PM PST by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
To: annalex; metmom
Sexual morality was significantly relaxed by the so-called reformation. Actually, it was the other "R" word - the Renaissance. After that, the Enlightenment. Nice attempt at scapegoating, though.
135 posted on
12/09/2012 4:42:26 PM PST by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
To: annalex
Reformation brought about, gradually, liberalization of divorce and remarriage, use of contraception, and today, some Protestant denominations endorse abortion.
Damned Protestants! (especially George Bush!!!)
399 posted on
12/11/2012 4:16:24 AM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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