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British Israelism (B.I.) claims that the term ‘Jew’ is not used to denote descendants of all the tribes of Israel. That is, while Jews descending from Judah are Israelites not all Israelites are Jews. They generally teach that when the 10 tribes of the Northern Kingdom were carried into Assyria between 741-722 BC they did not return to their land but were scattered and lost. Judah, the Southern kingdom was then carried into Babylon between 605 BC and 586 BC and a remnant later returned.

the Bible does not support such a view. Rather members of all the tribes returned to the land of Israel and were there in New Testament times.

Teachers of B.I. claim the 10 tribes were ‘lost’. Yet James wrote to the 12 tribes scattered abroad. These were obviously members of all the tribes who were living outside the land of Israel. They were not ‘lost’ but were scattered and therefore living outside the Promised Land. When Paul went on his missionary journeys he would go first to the local synagogue to address his fellow countrymen. If the term Jew can be shown to have become synonymous with Israel then the major foundation of BI claims is swept away.

Contrary to BI claims we believe the term Jew did come to be interchangeable with the term Israelite. Consider the following verses in the New Testament. When Yeshua told the Canaanitish woman that ‘I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel,’ (Matt 5:24) surely He did not mean that He was sent to the 10 tribes that had been lost in Western Europe! He meant that His mission on earth was to His own people who were lost spiritually. He never left the land of Israel during His ministry. ‘He came unto His own and His own received Him not.’ (John 1:11) Was that ust to two tribes? John preached repentance in Judea (Mark1:4,5) yet preached repentance ‘to all the people of Israel,’ Acts 13:24. Jews "out of every nation" were dwelling at Jerusalem (Acts 2:5). Peter referred to all of these Jews as "men of Israel" (Acts 2:22). Acts 13: 6 refers to the "synagogue of the Jews" in which Paul preached. In verse 16, Paul called them "men of Israel" and in verse 17 "this people of Israel." In verse 24 he says that John "had first preached repentance to all the people of Israel," in verse 26 he called them the "stock of Abraham," and in verse 33 he referred to the Jews as "us their children"; then, showing that the Jews were the ones to whom he was speaking, verse 42 says "when the Jews came out of the synagogue." So Acts 13 adds up to this: Paul went into the "synagogue of the Jews" talking to the Jews in their synagogue, he called them "men of Israel" "this people Israel," "all the people of Israel," "stock of Abraham," and "us their children" and then "the Jews came out of the synagogue."

Yet there are still British Israelites who claim that Jews are not Israelites!

The B.I. teacher will argue that the passage teaches that the throne of David is to exist continuously forever through all generations. They then ask, if so then where is it today? They claim to have the answer and an appeal is made to the ‘ancient annals of Ireland’ to attempt to prove that Queen Elizabeth now sits on David’s throne.

. It is claimed that a Hebrew princess Tephi was the daughter of King Zedekiah of Judah, and therefore heir to the throne of David. The prophet Jeremiah brought her to Ireland to where Israelites had already migrated. They carried with them the stone upon which Jacob slept and upon which Kings of Judah were crowned. This became the coronation stone "Lia Fail" which until recently was in Westminster Abbey.

Tests on the stone confirm it as a red sandstone of Scottish origin and not from the land of Canaan.

Years after the captivity, "Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and wrote letters also to "Ephraim and Manasseh that they should come to the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, to keep the Passover unto the LORD God of Israel." (2nd Chron 30:1) Further to that (2nd Chron 30:18) states that, "many of Ephraim and Manasseh, Issachar and Zebulun" came to Jerusalem. That would have been a long trip if they had to come all the way from Britain and Ireland! In the year 628 BC, a century AFTER the Assyrian captivity, Josiah called Israel and Judah to observe the Passover. (2nd Chron 34:9)

Neither has it been explained how USA (Manasseh) could be blessed if they rebelled against the Royal Israelite throne in England. Surely every true Israelite should acknowledge the Throne of David. Verses in Isaiah that refer to "isles" are said by B.I. teachers to mean the British Isles. However in Hebrew the word can be translated "coastlands", "the shore of a mainland or an island coast".

Another major cornerstone of this teaching is that social historical Israel, as it is traditionally perceived, cannot possibly fulfil the promises of physical multiplicity that was to equal "the sand of the sea," "the dust of the earth," or the "stars of the sky." Such a hyper-literalist reading of these phrases, which rules out their common-sense interpretation, ignores the scriptural record. For (2nd Chr 1:9) states clearly that the people over whom Solomon reigned (Israel) were "a people as numerous as the dust of the earth." (Isa 10:22) also refers to the people of Israel being "as the sand of the sea" in number.

So, sorry, British-Israeliism is false.

[Yosemitest]

Elwood McQuaid ?
That's your source?
You can't be serious.

Don't you know that the ... well, here's my source.

Matthew 10:2, “Go rather to the lost sheep of the House of Israel”.

Were they lost?

“To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting”. James 1:1

There seems to be some knowledge of where they are. When the northern tribes were taken out of their land by the Assyrians (from 740-719 B.C.) they were concentrated in a camp in northern Persia. When Babylon grew in power, the Assyrians had to go to war. This gave the Israelites the occasion to escape. The Assyrian guards most likely went along. They escaped to the north and west over the Caucasus mountains.

For your information, the people who came over the Caucasus mountains were called Caucasians, who are described as light skin color, high percent of light colored eyes and hair.

The Caucasus mountains stretch from the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea, north of Iran (old Persia). The country that is now situated with the foothills of the greater Caucasus mountains to the north and the lesser Caucasus to the south is the Republic of Georgia.

As they proceeded north and west, they fulfilled the prophecy “Israel would become a multitude of nations”. The British helped to fulfill this by having their flag flown over 170 countries at one time; making it the Commonwealth, Canada, Australia, England, Ireland, Scotland, New Zealand, South Africa, India, etc. Hence the saying “The sun never sets on Great Britain”.

Genesis 48:13 ~ Ephraim(a multitude of nations) and Manasseh( a great nation) were prophesied through Jacob(Israel), God to Abraham in (Genesis 22:17) ~ “Thy seed shall possess the gates of his enemies”. The British did this for a long time, then were joined by America in control of all the sea gates. “Let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth”. Gen. 48:16

It is pretty well established that Great Britain is basically Ephraim
and America is Manasseh.
Each have some portion of the other tribes.
All Israelite nations have some Levites and the tribe of Simeon in them, going back to Genesis 49:5-7.
They shall be peoples scattered among all Israel.
Even Judah is scattered among all the nations.

Naturally we are lead to believe that the Danish (Denmark) are the tribe of Dan, but the prophecy in Genesis 49 says, “Dan shall judge his people. He shall be a serpent by the way.“
Dan seems to have left his mark/name every where ~ Danube, Dardanelles, Denmark, Don.
These and many others may be misleading us to believe that Dan went along with the other tribes.
There is an interesting study ~ The Bible Probe.
They ask could Dan have gone from northern Israel (Lebanon) to Greece, either via Turkey or by water to found Troy?
According to the Iliad by Homer, the founder of Troy was named Dardanus. Over the centuries, Troy was populated by Trojans and Spartans, which migrated to southern France and into Germany.
In the Apocryphal book of I Maccabees 12:20-21, there is an account about the Spartans of Southern Greece claiming
they were related to the Jewish people and were in fact of the stock of Abraham.
Historian Flavius Josephus also has recorded this letter.

Prophecy through Moses in Deut. 33:22; that Dan as a lions whelp would leap from Bashan.
Bashan is located in ancient Lebanon.
Dan went into obscurity ~ Europe? Germany? Denmark? Danube River? Irish Tuatha de Danann? Rome? Greece?
Has he become an enemy to the ten tribes of Israel?
As a serpent in the way, judging his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.
Maybe this is why Dan is not included in the twelve tribes in Revelation 7:4-8.

Another thought ~ Paul in his missionary travels went mostly to the Greek people. Gentiles or lost Israelites?
Someday we will get answers to these and other questions.

As for Denmark and Iceland; the prophecy to Asher in Genesis 49:20 “out of Asher, his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.
Could this elude to danishes (desserts)?

Rueben is represented in France [south]. Their ensign was a “man”.
The northern part, Normandy ~possibly Benjamin . The inhabitants of Sweden, Norway, Finland may be Nephtali.
Judah is in the land of Israel and King David’s throne in Britton.
Gad could be represented in Austria; Issachar - Poland; Zebulon - Spain and Portugal.
The Assyrian guards that escaped with the Israelites are possibly Germany.

We could say, this would constitute a multitude of nations, along with the 170 nations with the British flag flown over them and of course, America.

In II Samuel 7:10 ~ “I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them anymore, as before time.” [second witness ~ I Chronicles 17:9]


The Throne of David (Israel) is no longer in Israel, the Jewish state, but God said several times in scripture that the throne was established forever. [ I Kings 9:5; Jeremiah 33:17, 20-21]

So where is the throne now?. . .in Britain (England)
It is rumored that while Israel was in Egypt, Judah’s younger son Zarah, traveled to the north and west.
His elder twin, Pharez, was awarded the kingly line. (Genesis 49:10; 46:12)
Zarah established the kingship and a kingdom in the British Isles.

And the story goes on from there. Ezekiel 17:22-24
"Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar,
and will set it;
I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one,
and will plant it upon a high mountain and eminent:
In the mountain of the height of Israel will I plant it:
and it shall bring forth boughs, and bear fruit, and be a goodly cedar:
and under it shall dwell all fowl of every wing;
in the shadow of the branches thereof shall they dwell.
And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish:
I the LORD have spoken and have done it.

There is a chapter in Isaiah that doesn’t correspond with the ones before or after.
I find it interesting. Isaiah 18 ~ America?
“Woe to the land shadowed with eagles wings ( God’s wings Psalm 91:4. The eagle is also the national emblem);
which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia (beyond Ethiopia is the Sahara Desert, the Atlantic Ocean and America) ;
saying, go to a nation scattered (Strong’s #4900 ~ tall) and peeled (shaven);
a people terrible from their beginning till now, a nation meted out and trodden down (
meted out means measured and marked by the square mile; a job that Abraham Lincoln took as part time work for a while);
whose land the rivers spoiled (the Mississippi cuts it in half from north to south.
The Ohio river runs east to west, beginning in Pittsburgh, PA, to the Mississippi)


Deuteronomy 28:1-12,13 ~ These scriptures were and are for Israel, but only actually fulfilled in the last two centuries.
The people in the land of Israel (Jews) can’t claim this; they are not lenders, but borrowers.
The head and not the tail is questionable; they are still a part of Israel.

Other scriptures give credence to Israel being in the isles to the north and west. (Isaiah 49:12, Jeremiah 31:10)
“The one who scattered Israel, will gather him”.
Hear ye nations and declare it in the isles afar off.

Scripture gives us an idea where Israel comes from in the world.
All over, but most concentrated in the Isles to the north and west of Jerusalem.
This includes the lands and other nations that are in the north and west also.

It would seem that we as Israel are certainly a blessed multitude of nations.

Study, study, study to prove all things!!

Genesis 49:1
“And Jacob called unto his sons, and said,
Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days."

You really need to think about this.