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To: Cronos

It was the JOHN Smith part that threw me. The rest, well whatever. Quaint theories. Lots of folks have them. Some are more well stocked than others.


207 posted on 12/04/2012 8:37:05 AM PST by BlueDragon (in essentials, unity; in doubtful matters, liberty; in all things, charity)
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To: BlueDragon; Yosemitest
True, quaint theories. the British-Israeli thing can be mostly harmless and quite frankly its out of date

Yosemite -- question, do you believe that the Anglo-Saxons and by extension WAS Americans are descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel? Or just spiritually?

imho it's wise to take the first -- the British concept with a pinch of salt. This was thought up as a justification for the start of British imperialism and sorry, has proven wrong as the British empire while doing a lot of good also helped the Saudis create their kingdom and hence the Sauds sponsor Wahabbi / al Qaeda terrorism and they also fudged over Israel and were instrumental of the first terrorist Islamic state -- Pakistan

But, yosemitest -- I will give your books a read

I in particular in 2007 remember the battles we had on FR against British-Israelism proponents who used it to denote their racist views

They were banned from FR as we don't want those folks -- and note I don't know or believe that you are the same as those, just pointing out something that many B-I proponents use

238 posted on 12/05/2012 12:16:43 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: BlueDragon
The John Smith part is a logical outcome

look, B-I is the perfect recipe for the British to give their Empire a religious means so thereby infusing its proponents with more fervor. It died out to some extent after the Revolution, and the East India Company didn't have this as they were purely about trade -- many actually "went native" and most had a respect for South-Asian culture

It only regained ground around 1848 with the 1848 revolutions in Europe and the rise of nationalism and was taken up in the US

John Smith was a canny inventor -- the 1800s had the rise of nationalism and American exceptionalism along with the discoveries in Egypt (and yet no deciphering of hieroglyphs yet) and ideas on Amerindians

he merged all of this along with the revitalization of the Baptists with the Baptist philosophy of Great Apostasy and extended that further back

243 posted on 12/05/2012 12:35:45 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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